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Sunday, September 24, 2017

PD CHAT, 24 SEPT

PD Member News Highlights & Comments 9-24-17

MrsClassy:   Countdown to the referendum. Closing the skies and Barzani clinging and Abadi looms

ReportsnnnnSince 2017-09-24 at 18:43 (Baghdad time)

Baghdad scales news    With the final countdown to the referendum on self-determination for Kurdistan Iraq decision tomorrow, in the territory of Arbil, Sulaymaniyah and Dahuk Halabja, disputed areas reject Baghdad: referendum in the Kurdistan Regional Government clinging coverage referendum, which as an idea The Iraqi Government.

Below are some highlights which accelerated before the referendum:
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• Iran halted flights to Iraq at the request of the Government of Kurdistan Baghdad

Tehran halted flights to airports in Kurdistan Iraq in response to a request from the Central Government in Baghdad a day before the referendum on independence for the territory.

Quotes about Kiwan Khosravi spokesman as saying that the Iranian security apparatus bigger Iran also closed its airspace to flights originating from Kurdistan Iraq.

• Washington warns its citizens in Iraq referendum disorders

The US Embassy in Baghdad warned American citizens of possible disturbances if Iraq Kurdistan Regional Government decided to hold a referendum on secession.

Embassy said in a statement that the US Mission in Iraq would reduce their traffic temporarily as a precaution and called for Americans to avoid travel to and from the disputed areas between Baghdad and Kurdish Governments in Erbil.

The mission called for its citizens to exercise extreme caution and take the necessary action to save personal safety at any time during their presence in Iraq.

• The main parties in Kurdistan stresses referendum in Kirkuk

Leaders of the main parties in Kurdistan to hold a referendum in Kirkuk after disagreements and different invitations not covered by the maintenance referendum.

This came following a meeting of the Kurdish Democratic Party and the Patriotic Union of Kurdistan Islamic Union under the supervision of President Barzani in the presence of the Governor of the province of Kirkuk Najmuddin cream where referendum decides in the end.

• Tlerson call Washington's refusal underscores Abadi referendum territory

The day before the separation referendum process starting in the northern Iraqi Kurdistan, the United States rejected him and support the Iraqi Government's efforts to save her unit.

During a telephone conversation with Foreign Minister tilrson Rex Iraqi Prime Minister Haider Abadi late last night, the country's rejection of the Kurdistan referendum and emphasized "the full support of the Iraqi Government and all its steps to save the unity of Iraq."

• Barzani: Kurds will not return to Baghdad.

Iraq Kurdistan Regional President Massoud Barzani told a press conference that the Kurds will go ahead with Monday's independence referendum.

He said they would seek to hold talks with the Shiite-led Central Government in Baghdad to implement the outcome of the referendum is expected to be "Yes" even if it takes two years or more.

"I won't go back to a failed partnership" with Baghdad, adding that Iraq has become a "confessional State" not supposed democratic State established after the overthrow of Saddam Hussein in 2003.

The Barzani rejected fears Iraq neighbour Turkey, Iran, and propel the referendum destabilized the region and pledged to respect international border laws and not to seek to redraw new boundaries.

• Abadi: we will later steps to save Iraq unit

Iraqi Prime Minister Haider Abadi, in a Word, Sunday, that Baghdad will not deal with the referendum in Kurdistan and its consequences, adding that there would be subsequent steps to meet it.

The Iraqi Prime Minister that exclusivity decision affect Iraq and secure unit and affect all its citizens and on the security of the region via referendum on secession unilaterally, is contrary to the Constitution and the peaceful coexistence of citizens and will be dealt with and not with its results and subsequent steps we will have to save the console The country and the interests of all citizens. "

He explained that at the time when the war on terrorism and with the approach of the final victory on the "dwaash" in Western Anbar, hweejah and West of Kirkuk and everywhere, map of Iraq to try to split the unity of the country and shredding would differentiate between the sons of one nation on the basis of nationality, race, All risk of serious consequences, pointing out that Iraq will remain for all Iraqis.

• Yildirim: residents of Kurdistan will pay for the territorial Government errors 
​Turkish Prime Minister Ali Yildirim, said Sunday that a referendum be held in Kurdish northern Iraq, would be a way to solve any problem, it will exacerbate the chaos and instability and lack of power.

This came in a speech while attending a meeting of the justice and development party, in the capital Ankara.

Yildirim said that area residents will pay for mistakes committed by the Government of the Kurdish region, Turkey will never welcome bye a new entity on its southern border ended 29/m h n

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Jacktt:   Interesting artcle, here's another one. I couldn't open it up:

Iraqi Kurds vote for independence. Barzani: Our borders lie where our tanks stop

https://www.debka.com/iraqi-kurds-vote-independence-barzani-borders-lie-tanks-stop/

 
Payray:    With all of this drama, this is a recipe for an RV... Loving it.
 

KTFA UPDATE, 24 SEPT

Samson: Officially .. America gives Abadi "green light" to take the appropriate decision on the referendum of the region

24-09-2017 02:42 PM    Baghdad News -

US Secretary of State Rex Tillerson, in a telephone conversation with Prime Minister Haider Abadi, reiterated his country's rejection of the referendum in the Kurdistan region, stressing his country's support for any necessary steps taken by Iraq to preserve the unity of Iraqi territory.

The office of 'Abadi' in a statement that 'the Prime Minister Haider Abadi, a telephone call from US Secretary of State Rex Tilerson' and confirmed 'Tillerson' according to the statement 'the position of the United States rejecting the referendum in Kurdistan,' stressing 'his country's full support for the Iraqi government In taking all the steps necessary to preserve the unity of Iraq '.

"The international community commends the outstanding role of the slaves in the military victory and in the plans to restore stability and reconstruction of the liberated areas," he said, adding that "the people of Iraq and its valiant forces,

For his part, 'Abadi', on the 'clear and clear Iraqi government's position on the unconstitutionality of the referendum of Kurdistan', stressing 'to take all legal steps necessary to prevent the exposure of security and community peace and the unity of the country at risk'.

He continued, 'Abadi,' that 'Iraq Egypt to accelerate the completion of the liberation of all territories from the clutches of terrorism and the preservation of the Iraqi border', praising 'international support for Iraq in the battle of liberation and reconstruction and stability      link
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Walkingstick:  Kurdistan announces tomorrow an official holiday   LINK

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Samson:  Massive Sadrist demonstration all over Iraq next Monday
 24th September, 2017
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The Central Commission for Protests in Iraq warned the Iraqi parties and political blocs against “stalling and twisting styles” in election of the independent elections Commission, calling for a massive demonstration tomorrow, Monday, in all Iraqi provinces.
The Protests Commission rejected the voting of the Iraqi parliament to extend the period of the Elections Commission for one month.

In a statement, it pointed that it was “patient” due to war situation in the country and giving time to demote the present Election Commission with more appropriate and nationalistic one.

Yesterday, Saturday, was the last day of the period of the Elections Commission.
According to the statement, the aim of the demonstration is the rejection of the extension of the Elections Commission and voting for a new one not affiliate to any bloc or party.

http://www.iraqtradelinknews.com/2017/09/massive-sadrist-demonstration-all-over.html

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Samson:  30 terrorists to be executed tomorrow

 24th September, 2017

Iraqi Justice Ministry announced that execution verdicts shall be implemented tomorrow against 30 terrorists in Nassiriya prison, south of the country.

The execution will be implemented according to the endorsement of the verdicts by the President of Iraq Fouad Ma’soum.

The decision was taken following massive demonstrations to implement the verdicts following the terrorist attacks in Nassiriya province that led to more than 150 casualties.

http://www.iraqtradelinknews.com/2017/09/30-terrorist-to-be-executed-tomorrow.html

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Samson:  MacGork welcomes the development of economic relations between Iraq, Saudi Arabia, Kuwait and Jordan

 24th September, 2017

US President George W. Bush's envoy, Bert McGurk, stressed the importance of the development of economic relations between Iraq, Saudi Arabia, Jordan and Kuwait in the reconstruction of Iraq to a post-terrorist organization.

He welcomed the initiatives mentioned by Saudi Foreign Minister Adel al-Jubeir and Iraq's Ibrahim al-Jaafari in New York, including the opening of a border crossing between the two countries, adding the importance of improved relations between Iraq, Kuwait and Jordan in economic support for Iraq.

McGowork said that Kuwait informed the foreign ministers of the member states of the coalition against the organization, calling on the terrorist that it will host a conference for the reconstruction of Iraq early next year, indicating the United States keenness on the success of this conference.    http://bit.ly/2hre8kt

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Samson:  The World Bank calls on the Iraqi government to provide jobs for citizens

 24th September, 2017

The World Bank's Mashreq Regional Director, Saroj Kumar Jah, called on the Iraqi government to create jobs to restore confidence with its citizens.  "Restoring trust between the Iraqi state and its citizens is highly dependent on the government demonstrating its ability to provide security, jobs and economic growth for all Iraqis, especially the poor and vulnerable, and the millions of internally displaced people affected by the war and their host communities," the World Bank said in a statement.

"The World Bank Group will seek to support the Iraqi government in designing and implementing response mechanisms based on rigorous economic analysis, mobilizing best practices in recovery and planning for reconstruction, and benefiting from sustainable international support," the statement said.

"Despite the massive devastation caused by the recent conflict, Iraq now has a unique opportunity to re-establish itself after the restoration of Mosul," the statement quoted the World Bank's Mashreq Regional Director, Saruj Kumar Jah, as saying. There is a lot to do. It is imperative for Iraqis to persevere and move forward in order to secure a better future for all. Through this strategic partnership framework, the World Bank Group is ready to support Iraq in its long journey towards long-term reconstruction and development that benefits everyone.

"Re-establishing confidence between the state and its citizens is highly dependent on the Iraqi government's ability to provide security, jobs and economic growth for all Iraqis, especially the poor and the weak, and the millions of internally displaced people affected by the war and their host communities."    http://bit.ly/2hqIsfi

Samson:  Many countries consider Vietnam important partner in Southeast Asia

 23rd September, 2017

Vietnam’s Deputy Prime Minister and Foreign Minister Pham Binh Minh at a meeting with US Under Secretary for Political Affairs at the US Department of State Thomas Shannon

New York (VNA) – Officials of many countries and international  organisations have affirmed they consider Vietnam an important partner in Southeast Asia and Asia-the Pacific during bilateral meetings with Vietnam’s Deputy Prime Minister and Foreign Minister Pham Binh Minh in New York on September 22.

On the sidelines of the ongoing 72nd session of the  UN General Assembly in the US, Deputy PM Pham Binh Minh received US Under Secretary for Political Affairs at the US Department of State Thomas Shannon, during which the two sides exchanged measures to realise the outcomes of Prime Minister Nguyen Xuan Phuc’s visit to the US.

Minh hailed the US’s decision to open its market for Vietnamese star apples,
stressing that the two nations needs to step up collaboration in the fields of
mutual interests at bilateral, regional, and global levels, for the sake of
their peoples as well as for peace, stability and development in the region and
around the world. 


Shannon suggested the two sides build on the positive developments in the Vietnam-US relations in recent years to promote dialogue and mutual visits,
especially the upcoming visit to Vietnam by President Donald Trump in November
2017, and to enhance result-oriented cooperation in trade, investment,
science-technology, security-defence, humanitarian activities, as well as in regional
and global matters.

Deputy PM Minh also had meetings with the Prime Minister of Macedonia,
the Deputy Prime Minister and Foreign Minister of Bulgaria, foreign ministers of
Albania, Saudi Arabia, Hungary, and Morocco, the Executive Chairman of the
World Economic Forum and the Secretary General of the Permanent Court of
Arbitration.

Minh called on the countries to increase the exchange of high-level
delegation visits with Vietnam and beef up bilateral cooperation in economics,
trade, investment, culture, science-technology, and education, in addition to
providing mutual support at multilateral forums.

He stressed that Vietnam is willing to serve as a bridge to link the countries
and partners in Southeast Asia.

Also on September 22, Deputy PM Minh co-chaired a meeting
between foreign ministers of the Association of Southeast Asian Nations (ASEAN)
and the Pacific Alliance (PA).

Speaking on behalf of ASEAN foreign ministers, Minh said the
geographical distance could not stop the cooperative relations and friendship
between the two organisations.

He highlighted the available strengths of the two regions and suggested they
focus cooperation on economics, trade, investment, education, people-to-people
exchanges, science-technology, and sustainable development.

Colombia’s Minister of Foreign Affairs María Ángela Holguín, who co-chaired the
meeting with Minh, said ASEAN and PA share a lot of similarities in their approaches
to regional and international situation, especially in promoting economic
integration, free trade and equality as well as boosting the development of
businesses, particularly small-and medium-sized enterprises (SMEs).

At the end of the meeting, the foreign ministers adopted the ASEAN-PA Work Plan
for 2017-2018.

The Vietnamese delegation also attended other sidelines events of the 72nd session
of the UN General Assembly such as the informal foreign ministerial-level
meeting of the Conference on Interaction and Confidence-Building Measures in
Asia (CICA), a ministerial meeting of the Non-Alignment Movement, and a ministerial
meeting of G77 Group, among others.

Vietnam also joined the launching ceremony of the initiative “Partnering for
Green Growth” (P4G) inspired by Denmark to promote multinational cooperation in
energy and water, ecosystem, land, food, and sustainable urban development.
Vietnam is a partner in the initiative.

https://www.vietnambreakingnews.com/2017/09/many-countries-consider-vietnam-important-partner-in-southeast-asia/

IQD CHAT, 24 SEPT

xyz: International Monetary Fund: Three Iraqi ministries have 2 million jobs

https://translate.google.com/translate?u=http://economy-news.net/content.php%3Fid%3D9100

The International Monetary Fund (IMF) announced on Sunday that three Iraqi ministries are holding 2 million jobs out of 3.5 million jobs.

 The International Monetary Fund said in a report seen by the "economy News", "The public sector is the largest employers of employment, and employs about 3.5 million about 42% of all jobs," adding that "the wage bill for public sector employees amounted to 34 trillion dinars" .
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He pointed out that "the wage bill has risen in the government budget more than five times and registered an increase from 7% to more than 40%," noting that "the ministries of education, defense and the interior is the largest employers of workers and employs about two million employees," explaining that "46 % Of employees are employed in civilian ministries, 30% work in the Ministries of Defense and Interior and 24% are not classified. "

Doug_W: what is a "benny" ?

xyz: Terrible translation .... cbi: Project of the adoption of tax identification and tax numberhttps://cbi.iq/news/view/411 One of our pillars numbered number? / 1 /?% In! a. ? ...

However, our above beliefs are still in effect, so your banks have to adopt their ownThe tax and the foreign number of all remittances are as follows:(Transfers and credits) executed through the sale window and foreign exchange ratesA racist and racist bank.

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xyz: Barzani family left Arbil to the UAE https://translate.google.com/translate?u=http://www.wataniq.com/news%3FID%3D19529

Spectra: KTFA -POST....Officially .. America gives Abadi "green light" to take the appropriate decision on the referendum of the region 24-09-2017 02:42 PM Baghdad News - US Secretary of State Rex Tillerson, in a telephone conversation with Prime Minister Haider Abadi, reiterated his country's rejection of the referendum in the Kurdistan region, stressing his country's support for any necessary steps taken by Iraq to preserve the unity of Iraqi territory.

The office of 'Abadi' in a statement that 'the Prime Minister Haider Abadi, a telephone call from US Secretary of State Rex Tilerson' and confirmed 'Tillerson' according to the statement 'the position of the United States rejecting the referendum in Kurdistan,' stressing 'his country's full support for the Iraqi government In taking all the steps necessary to preserve the unity of Iraq '.

"The international community commends the outstanding role of the slaves in the military victory and in the plans to restore stability and reconstruction of the liberated areas," he said, adding that "the people of Iraq and its valiant forces,

For his part, 'Abadi', on the 'clear and clear Iraqi government's position on the unconstitutionality of the referendum of Kurdistan', stressing 'to take all legal steps necessary to prevent the exposure of security and community peace and the unity of the country at risk'.

He continued, 'Abadi,' that 'Iraq Egypt to accelerate the completion of the liberation of all territories from the clutches of terrorism and the preservation of the Iraqi border', praising 'international support for Iraq in the battle of liberation and reconstruction and stability

xyz: @Spectra where is touchable evidence of "green light"?

Spectra: NOT THE KIND WE WANT!

Spectra: I am only posting a article..that does not mean i put my faith in it!

xyz: @Spectra i don't mind the kind THEY like

Spectra: i would prefer the Green light to mean lift the zero's!

Whitelions: This Article is saying that no matter what happens in Iraq tomorrow the money from the oil stays in the hands of the people NOT Baghdad or The Kurds , so that means if the kurds leave they get on money from the oil to run the place .

Whitelions: Oil oil sector dimensions invites political conflicts http://economy-news.net/vrsfls/cntnt/pctr/2499.jpg The oil Ministry said Saturday, that sovereign wealth and oil belongs to the Iraqi people of all stripes, including Kurdistan, warning of exploiting the extraordinary circumstances and being drawn to control them, invited all concerned to keep the oil sector from political conflicts.

The Ministry said in a press release received by "economy" news "national oil wealth is sovereign wealth and property of the Iraqi people of all stripes and its components throughout the territory from North to South and from East to West including Kurdistan", pointing to "the country faces challenges and repercussions of the result announcement Kurdistan Regional Government referendum in Kurdistan and Kirkuk and Diyala provinces.

The Ministry also said, "as required by the national professional and ethical responsibility and the oil Ministry strongly warns all parties and others that are trying to exploit these exceptional circumstances and being drawn to control the destiny of the Iraqi people's wealth and tampering or interfering in the Affairs of oil companies Dear inherent, including Kirkuk, loaded with all the stakeholders ' responsibility to maintain the oil installations and the lives of employees and officials.

The Ministry stressed its "interference in their work or lay hands on any of their facilities," saying "the Federal Government and the oil Ministry since 2003 on investment optimization for national wealth and meet the needs of the Iraqi people of all stripes and its components although intersections and differences between the Government The Federal and territorial Government on oil policy and management of the country's wealth and non-territorial commitment agreements towards the federal budget and its excesses, as well as the territorial Government to export oil and conclude contracts with foreign companies without going to the Federal Government and the Min

Whitelions: istry of Oil ". The oil Ministry said it was "put the national interest above all else and put aside differences," stressing "commitment to national constants and their concern for the optimal investment of national wealth and development service to people of all sects and Perigord.
The Ministry called for everyone to "keep the oil sector from political conflicts or the use of national wealth as a means of pressure and bargaining at the expense of national principles," calling all concerned to resort to serious and constructive national dialogue away from logos and narrow interests. " SOURCE

Spectra: well it looks like we are approaching the hour for that answer should come shortly !

Spectra: i say lets get it over with ASAP..

ElmerFudd: So, does that mean HCL is finalized?

Spectra: WHO KNOWS???

spanki: thx whitelions

Spectra: i Hate waiting for these clowns all of them..

ElmerFudd: I hear ya.

ElmerFudd: Well, at least this referendum seems to have gotten them moving. Whether they carry it through is another matter.

Spectra: right ....Actions will speak....

Spectra: no article matters in our terms.

ElmerFudd: Agreed.
Spectra: unfortunatly :que

ElmerFudd: So, I wonder what will happen today?

Spectra: we all do ELMER!
Spectra: Haider Al-Abadi 17 hrs · Prime Minister Dr. Haider Al-Abadi receives a telephone call from U.S. Foreign Secretary Rex Motel. Mr. Motel confirmed the United States position rejecting the referendum in Kurdistan, stressing his country's full support for the Iraqi government and all its steps to maintain the unity of Iraq.

Spectra: mR mOTEL--LOL
RickeyT: @Zig http://freedomdaily.com/its-official-entire-nfl-was-just-woke-to-worst-news-of-their-lives-look-what-they-were-hit-with/

tman23: @RickeyT ...... They be smart.......75% have college degrees in sports management........ And 74% couldn't pass a GED test........ And quickly the asylum is running the institution which results in.......ESPN failing and the NFL going down hill.......

Tebow: Overpaid idiots killing their livelyhood!
Tebow: Next they'll be calling fans racist for not watching.
Tebow: Can't fix stupid!

tman23: When ESPN suspended Robert Lee from announcing a college football game......BECAUSE of the confederate statue controversy......AND his name being Robert Lee the same as the confederate general.......AND THE ESPN ANNOUNCER - ROBERT LEE , NATIONALITY.....ASIAN !!!!!!! ...... There are just no words that describe the stupidity.......

Brow: @Tebow - You're 101 % "RIGHT".....You can "NOT" fix "STUPID"---All through my Life I have always thought the "REAL" Idiots" was the people watching that "CRAP"-While the "players" Laughed all the way To the Bank with Y'all's "MONEY"

Brow: I could not Name Not even ONE name of a Player-They Mean nothing to ME!!! & never Have

Spectra: I do not watch the gladiators !or what you call sports! The whole thing is rigged..
Spectra: This is the sad truth.
   
Tebow: I no longer watch the NFL. Haven't bought a movie ticket in years. I do watch movies on the internet for free depriving Hollyweird of my money.

Brow: @Tebow - Has seen the *LIGHT*

Tebow: Guess I'm just a boycotting racist Trump supporter. I don't feel bad at all.

Brow: Commercials is One of the Main Things Driven "UP" the cost on products too

Brow: @Tebow - You Racist or Maybe a True American the Stands For Liberty-Freedom & The Truth ?

Boomer: I must be a racist because all I watch is NASCAR...lol

Baxter: Nascar is dying too... I love how the Tv tries to hide the stands when the cars go around track.. they dont want to show no one in the stands..

whynot: While the best answer in this old thread is true overall, it kind of tip-toes around digging into this quote and sort of misses the point. While from a neutral, unbiased point of view the obvious answer is that it depends on the person in question...since patriotism is at its core...rhetoric, and its moral integrity a reflection of said individual person's own actions...I think it's... Full answer
Spectra: https://youtu.be/TpCYFSSUbSE 1 day left till Historic Referendum Vote

Spectra: @jw ok ill go look again

jw: @Spectra Now I feel like a total idiot!!!! The show I saw is posted on the 23rd. but LAST MONTH!!!!! I guess we'll just have to wait for him to do the next presentation. The next big news is just what you said, the referendum.

chattels: Retired US general, colonel see Kurdish independence as right path By Rudaw

http://www.rudaw.net/english/kurdistan/240920174

chattels: President Masoud Barzani speaks to press on independence referendum By Rudaw

http://www.rudaw.net/english/kurdistan/240920175

chattels: Komal supports ‘Yes’ vote By Rudaw

http://www.rudaw.net/english/kurdistan/240920177

chattels: ERBIL, Kurdistan Region – One of the two parties that has criticized the timing of the Kurdistan referendum and urged for its postponement has declared it will support voting ‘Yes’ for independence.

[pm]Zig: @JoeSchmoe : I was kidding....LOL

BobS: September 24, 2017 21:00 Direct: The Iraqi government called on the international community to stop importing oil or its derivatives from the Government of Iraq's Kurdistan region, according to Sky News Arab. Iraq produces the Kurdistan region of about 650 thousand barrels of oil per day from fields including about 150 thousand barrels of Kirkuk , the disputed areas between Baghdad and Erbil .

The production of the region 15% of the total Iraqi production and about 0.7% of the world 's oil production, and aims of the Kurdistan Regional Government to produce nearly one million barrels of oil per day by 2020 .

 It is scheduled to hold the territory of Iraqi Kurdistan referendum on survival or separation from the Iraqi state, Gma Monday, amid international rejection . The Iraqi government has asked the Iraqi Kurdistan region hand over the management of border points and the airport region, according to "Sky News Arabia."

 The number of Kurds up to about 30 million, divided between Iraq, Iran, Turkey, Syria, and Iraq 's neighbors fear especially Turkey and Iran from the transmission of infection to the Kurds separation of their populations . Iraqi Kurdistan Region President Massoud Barzani stressed that the region seeks to good - neighborly relationship with Baghdad , referring to the lack of any intention to escalate or armed conflict .

BobS: September 24, 2017 18:30 Direct: Foreign Minister of Iraq, the commitment of donor countries to support Iraq and the reconstruction of Iraqi cities, announcing the donation of Canada and the United States B8.26 billion, according to the Iraqi Foreign Ministry statement.

He called Ibrahim al-Jaafari, during his meeting with delegations from the European Union and the United States, Germany, and the Office of relief Alansansh of the United Nations, to expand in contributing to the reconstruction of devastated cities. He stressed Jaafari that Iraq is indivisible, in reference to the secession referendum Krdsta n.

It is noteworthy that in Iraq for reconstruction and repair of the infrastructure of the country 's debilitating process, occurred in the recent period loans to repair electricity networks, with companies agreements English and Japanese, and Swedish . As well as the signing of loan agreements with the countries of France , and the Czech and the German Development Bank , and the IMF loan in 2016 .


BobS: September 24, 2017 15:40 Directly: the center's insistence on moving towards a referendum secession of Kurdistan, starting on Monday to polling stations in the province to receive about 5 million people, areas controlled by the Kurds in northern Iraq.

Insisting on holding the referendum without delay, a statement confirmed by the Supreme Council for the referendum of the Kurdistan region yesterday, announced by Massoud Barzani, president of the province of the masses last Friday. Barzani hinted in his speech to the fans, to the Territory was ready for dialogue but after the referendum on 25 September, which has become a public issue.

Barzani explained, that the referendum is not to draw the border, but rather to assert the right to independence, stressing that Iraqi Kurdistan has been waiting for 100 years this day. Kurdistan Regional Government plans to use this vote as a proxy for a legitimate push for negotiations with Baghdad and neighboring countries to reach independence.
BobS: Pressure to postpone the referendum Insist on a referendum separation comes, throwing Mounashidat, invitations local, regional and international pressure demanding to delay. Where he expressed the Security Council, his opposition to a referendum on independence, warning of the destabilization of this unilateral step for the stability of the country, and reiterated its commitment to Iraq's sovereignty, unity and territorial integrity.

As it opposed to the United States a special at this time of the referendum for fear of destabilizing Iraq, and called on the Washington region to search for "alternative path" for a referendum without revealing the nature of that path. It issued a Saudi foreign ministry statement called the Iraqi parties to enter into dialogue in order to achieve the interests of the people of all its components, pointing out that the lack of a referendum of the Kurdistan region of Iraq and would avoid many of the risks.

For their part , agreed that foreign ministers from Iraq, Iran and Turkey who opposed the referendum, on the study of action against the region in the event of continued ahead of the referendum on independence, after their meeting on the sidelines of the General Assembly in New York. Turkey warned of counter steps up to the imposition of sanctions.

At the same time, Iraqi Prime Minister waved, Haider al-Abadi, a military intervention against the Kurdistan region, in the event of the imposition of Irbil results of the referendum by force, and the referendum led to the chaos that hurt the rest of the ethnic. He also rejected the parliament of the Iraqi parliament and the Federal Supreme Court earlier in the referendum on the secession of the province.

BobS: Kurdistan and Kirkuk oil Being a referendum in the disputed areas in Kirkuk and administrative units covered in Nineveh, Diyala, as well as to spend Tuz Khormatu.

And it highlights the province of Kirkuk, which lies outside the Kurdistan region inhabited by Kurds, because of its large oil reserves and the export of crude oil through the Mediterranean Sea through a pipeline that runs from Iraq's Kurdistan Region and Turkey.

 If Turkey decided to close the pipeline that will be deprived Kurdistan government in Erbil from most of their income from hard currency.

Iraq produces the Kurdistan region of about 650 thousand barrels of oil per day from fields including about 150 thousand barrels of Kirkuk, the disputed areas between Baghdad and Erbil.

The production of the region 15% of the total Iraqi production and about 0.7% of the world's oil production, and aims of the Kurdistan Regional Government to produce nearly one million barrels of oil per day by 2020.

And it warned the Iraqi Oil Ministry, attempts to control the capabilities of the country 's oil , especially in the territories that have been tense recently, against the backdrop of the Declaration of the Government of Irbil to hold a referendum to vote on the secession of the Kurdistan region.

The number of Kurds up to about 30 million, divided between Iraq, Iran, Turkey, Syria, and Iraq's neighbors fear especially Turkey and Iran from the transmission of infection to the Kurds separation of their populations.

BobS: out.

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chattels: Dollar prices today in Iraq : 2017/9/24 10:47 • [Ayn-Baghdad] Foreign currency markets in Iraq, on Sunday morning, stabilized the dollar exchange rate against the Iraqi dinar.

The market price in the Kifah Stock Exchange in Baghdad was 1260 dinars per dollar, or 126 thousand dinars for one hundred dollars.

The prices of selling and buying dollars in banking companies were: the selling price of one dollar 1265 dinars, or 126 thousand and 500 dinars, for one hundred dollars. And the purchase price of the dollar at 1255 dinars, or 125 thousand and 500 dinars, for one hundred dollars.

http://www.alliraqnews.com/modules/news/article.php?storyid=66301

mountainwest74: chattels, I saw the first part of interview with retired US general and colonel on rudaw. Pretty candid analysis of situation by both men. They stated pretty well the current situation and past history of Kurdish problems with Baghdad.

chattels: @mountainwest74 I tend to think that there is a decided preference in our military for the Kurds over the Iraqi government in Baghdad.

chattels: @mountainwest74 Active duty officers are constrained to the political policy line.

tman23: Glad to see BGG is scanning the chat rooms looking for material....... Yes I said for 2 years the Kurd region would come to this day..... It was heavily refuted then, and now a majority are still in a state of denial ......Secondly..BGG warned me to knock it off when saying Basra would be Baghdads next NIGHTMARE should Kurds reach this point...... .... 
​mountainwest74: tman23, I did not read the details of the recent story of the Basra Governor fleeing to Iran amid corruption charges. Would not be surprised regarding the corruption allegations.

However, I wonder if he maybe was not a yes man for Baghdad and possibly needed to go? I believe it may have been the business council down in Basra not long ago discussing autonomy for the province.

chattels: Historically, according to one writer that I have read, there is a strong separatist mentality in Basra. Oil from Basra is a very high percentage of the oil produced in all of Iraq, including Kurdistan.

tman23: @mountainwest74 ... Basra is to be the economic mecca.......and right now is a dangerous sh^thole....... What Kurdistan is doing is GREAT.....

 It will bring reality to the change needed in Iraq...... But some want the old way.....you know...... form a committee for national reconciliation....... How has that been working for them ?

tman23: @mountainwest74 .......And Kurds support Abadi !!!!!! And Abadi will back and protect the Kurds......And that is the start ......

Baxter: My BIG Question... where in the ** is my ten cents??

chattels: @Baxter :)
Baxter: Oopps... Chattels and my ten cents...

chattels: @Baxter I am thinking a nickel these days :)
Baxter: :h5

BGG CHAT, 24 SEPT

Post From Dinar Updates – The Observer

DINAR OBSERVER DAILY September 24th
Posted on September 24, 2017 by The Dinar Observer

Stratfor Strategies: Sit. rep.

Negotiations are underway between the Iraqi government and the Kurdistan Regional Government (KRG) over the planned Kurdistan independence referendum, scheduled for Sept. 25. Numerous international powers oppose the referendum — including the United States, the United Kingdom, Turkey, Iran, Germany and other EU powers — and pressure is mounting on KRG President Massoud Barzani to delay the referendum.

Meanwhile, Barzani is trying to turn popular approval among Iraqi Kurds for the referendum into a mandate that will improve his bargaining position. But the rallying support — and opposition — is bringing a political charge that’s already spilled over into violence and could do so again…
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The prospective referendum includes territories that the central government in Iraq and the KRG both claim as their own. As political negotiations continue, the security situation in the disputed territories is tense and risks escalating.

In one such province, Diyala, Iranian-backed Shiite militias recently tried to claim territory, with militia leaders saying that the Kurds had no right to it. In Kirkuk province (which is more valuable than Diyala in part because of its oil reserves), not only do both the Iraqi and Kurdish governments lay claim to overlapping portions of the province, but outside powers Turkey and Iran also claim some degree of ownership and maintain ties to militia forces on the ground.

On Sept. 18, clashes erupted in Kirkuk between Kurdish paramilitary forces and Turkmen, resulting in the death of one Kurdish fighter and the wounding of a total of five men from both sides. As of Sept. 19, a nighttime curfew had been issued in Kirkuk to quell the violence and circumvent an escalation.

Earlier the same day, in a pro-referendum rally in Kirkuk, provincial Governor Najmiddin Karim made an appearance in support of Kurdistan independence, underlining the political tension in the province.

Many Kirkuk residents, particularly Arabs and Turkmen, do not support the referendum. Because neither Baghdad nor Arbil wields ultimate power over the militia forces scattered throughout the province, there is the risk further clashes will occur.

More unrest could, in turn, invite the deployment of even more military forces — from both the Iraqi government and the KRG — to the province. Going forward, Kirkuk will be a province to watch as a bellwether for the mounting risk of violence over the upcoming referendum.

BGG ~ IMHO, they may have a “vote” on this yet… long-run?? Barzani is KIDDING himself. If he manages to split from Iraq in the near future, Turkey will have him for a light snack (This is highly likely the impetus for the Barzani’s buying U.S. residences).

Erodgan has been spoiling to deal with his Turkish Kurdish. He sees no difference in his southern uprising and Barzani. They are all the same to him.

Further, both Turkey and Iran have designs on Kirkuk as well as the Kurds and the GOI. To further complicate matters, the GOI has clearly not been paying their bills to the Kurds.
It has to be a pretty big slap in the face where the Peshmerga hasn’t been paid since 2013 and these THUG SHIA Militias got salaries codified in the recent budget. On the other side of the argument – the Kurds have been (reportedly) selling oil outside the agreed upon channels.

Think about it… if the Kurds haven’t been contributing to the GOI for as long as is represented, if the GOI haven’t been paying the Kurds since 2013…

What does this vote matter?? They have the same “defacto agreement” going right now? Correct? How or why would it matter to the currency of Iraq?

Doubters?? Here is a Stratfor headline from TODAY!!

Sep 23, 2017 | Turkey: Parliament OKs Military Intervention, Warns Iraqi Kurds On Vote

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