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Thursday, August 31, 2017

DINAR GURUS UPDATE, 31 AUGUST

8-31-2017  ***  Dinar Guru Breaking News ***  ABC, CNN, BBC and other news organizations are reporting PM Abadi has declared victory over and liberation of Tal Afar and the Nineveh province.  This is a HUGE victory for Iraq and follows the liberation of Mosul earlier this summer.  Also, article, "Jordan, Iraq reopen border crossing, vital to trade."  This is their sole crossing and has been closed since 2015.  Stay tuned as the gurus chime in to report on the significance of both of these major events and their possible impact on the Iraqi dinar.  The latest guru updates will continue below...
8-31-2017   Intel Guru Frank26   ...we don’t offer you a date. What we do is we offer you time frames. We don’t offer you a rate, because they already told you that they are going to be on par with the American dollar; and, that definition is what? 1-to-1.  I told you that, once you have Mosul...the Monetary Reform...would travel at the speed of light...at a speed that you’ve never seen before; and...that is exactly what’s going on right now...They are building and building and building...Their economic and their monetary reforms.  They talk as if they already have Article VIII removed, as if they’re international...and they now boast about what they’re doing with their private banks...It is amazing what they’ve done; and...We don’t believe that it’s going to fall apart any more.   [post 1 of 3....stay tuned]

8-31-2017   Newshound Guru MilitiaMan  
 Article:  "Stability and confidence in the banking system"  It sure looks to me like they have been working on getting the citizens prepared and educated on we are again going to be a safe place to store wealth in our banks and using gold and vaults for both protection and utility of their wealth. With reasonable fees of course. This doesn't say dispensing gold coins, but, we hear that is coming if not established already. The part about compactness of the currency looks to be the lion share of it is now outside the country, thus, liquidity must be tight while they transition which suggests the plan has gotten to the point of final execution that is to come. This is part of the light speed, imo.

8-31-2017   Intel/Newshound Guru tman23   Each man makes his own choices and should hold himself accountable first...The IQD is still in play and nothing has changed other than personal life situations...

8-31-2017   Newshound Guru chattels   Article:  "Barzani accepts conditional postponement of the referendum and supports the establishment of a territory for the year"  Another case of the title not matching content and the content was poorly translated.  Referendum still a go for September 25 at this time.  [why does not Baghdad simply give the Kurds what was agreed to over a decade ago...?]   Can't say that I really know, but here we are. Their constitution is so nebulous that anyone can be correct with any number of argumentative interpretations.

8-31-2017   Intel Guru RayRen98  An article surfaced indicating that PM Abadi was called on to "curb the depletion of hard currency" due to passport carriers of VISA's exchanging 1,200 dinar for $3,000 USD noting these are currency dealers, not basic travelers indicating in the loss of state funds. (Unless I'm misreading this article)  Let's see what tomorrow brings!

TNT CC NOTES, 31 AUGUST

TNT Call notes 30-August-2017

Replay: 641.715.0623, PIN CODE 409029#


https://events.iteleseminar.com/?eventID=101098146

http://ds1.downloadtech.net/cn1086/audio/125816781317477-001.mp3

RayRen: Good afternoon, TNT super-fantastic family! Today is Wednesday August 30, 2017, with yours truly RayRat98 here. It’s the end of the month! We sent out the update on the customs law for people going in and out of the country with more than 200,000 dinar. That’s under $200 USD at the old rate, and now you need a permit! Baghdad has paid the Kurds 80% of their debt on Monday. A few weeks ago, the Kurds came to Baghdad for a meeting, and we never saw an update on the results of that meeting… now we are. That payment was based on agreement of a rate established for the Iraqi dinar. We know what that rate is, don’t know when it’s supposed to kick in, but it should be public pretty soon now that we know the results of that meeting. That’s the significance of that payment to the Kurds.

In addition to that, currencies are taking turns in different directions anticipated, if my information is 100% accurate. Because of that one factor of accuracy, we are of the mindset to wait and see, not moving on anything that comes out. That waiting will be a good thing on all fronts. If we see that to be true, we will let you know. You know about first mouse, second mouse, third mouse – that now applies to ALL currencies, not just the Iraqi dinar.

I’m not sure what other information can be discussed at this stage. Let’s watch the Zim closely. I am getting some new information, or at least new in that it’s coming to me; it’s similar to what have heard. Based on the possibilities, we need to be careful so that we can come out smelling like a rose. We must be patient, not only in waiting for the release, but springing into action based on reality. We don’t know if this is 100% accurate until it takes place, but some have been notified to be ready.

CALL POSTPONED.

Questions from the TNT forum

Q: Should there be some form of document that we have the bank sign and notarize stating, “This currency has been verified that it is authentic and the amount being exchanged is __$$$__.” Once the currency exchange is complete today there can be no recourse by the bank to take the deposited monies back out of the account.”
A: If you are presenting something for the bank to sign, they will probably won’t sign it unless they pass it by the legal department first. You can also call and ask before you go in, to find out what will satisfy you that this is a done deal once you relinquish your currency. They probably have some kind of documentation or process that will satisfy you.

Q: There are a few new and very different posts on Dinar Guru this morning claiming that there have been celebrations in Iraq behind a new program rate and that the lower denominations are out. [False.] One post from a programmer is very interesting calling out a list of key points of change now visible a the CBI site that were not there yesterday. Do your contacts reflect this as well? Further, is this maybe what Okie was so excited about?
A: I have no idea what Okie was excited about because I’m not in his head. To the best of my knowledge, the CBI site has made no major changes, or even subtle ones. We haven’t been able to find any celebrations apart from that mall being opened. That’s big for Iraq, but not for us. We haven’t heard anything about lower denominations actually being distributed.

Q: Ray, could we have some more training on what you were discussing last night about IQD contracts and the opening rates of the other currencies we hold – and not rushing to the bank with any of them?
A: Sure, be on the call tonight.

Q: Are there still contract rate available for people with just a few million IQD?
A: To the best of my understanding, yes.

Q: Ray , do you know of any banks in Alaska exchanging Dinar ? WF says No!
A: I thought I did but I’m scanning my notes here… and… I don’t have anything on my list right now that is exchanging in Alaska. If members know of somewhere, let me know.

Q: This is not really a question, but a suggestion for what is hopefully to be our near future. The tweets sometimes take over half an hour to get to some of us. I would like to suggest that when you do “THE” tweet of all tweets, that you would allow an hour before the call.
A: If time permits, I will do that. If there is anything coming to us that is timely, I might not wait that long, but if we can, we will.

Q: Are you still thinking that all of the currencies are coming out at the same time as the Dinar?
A: Well, that is what I have heard (with the usual caveats). Supposedly there are nine currencies that may be moving; four or five will pop out first, and the remaining four or five will come at a later date. Which are which I cannot tell you.

Q: Anything about new laws related to the release of the RV? [RR; Not to my knowledge.] Any updates in the mosque, or news from the IMF, etc.?
A: There is discussion about this payment to the Kurds, but otherwise nothing that has not been made public.

Live questions

865/404 caller: With respect to these currencies, what does ‘later’ mean?

RayRen: I would speculate it’s within the quarter that the others will be released.

Caller: As for rates showing on bank screens, they were showing 1:1000, and they should be showing 1:1 yesterday.

RayRen: I haven’t heard of that yet, and I think we would have heard if it had.

Caller: Any further feedback on their Eid starting this Friday? I would love for this to be the last ‘regular’ RV call…

RayRen: I haven’t heard any mention of it having to be done by then.

970 caller: How do we proceed post-RV with setting up trusts and foundation? Who would we be working with and what would that look like?

RayRen: I think for most people, you exchange your currency on (say) Monday, and go home with a receipt and debit card or black card, depending on the level of your exchange. I have no need to get cash out on exchange day, but probably I/you would put some money in your personal or discretionary spending account. Some debit cards have a daily limit that you might want the bank to extend. I’d go home and relax, and then go back in a few days to look at investment opportunities at the bank. I would also be doing research about what entities I want to create because those trusts, LLCs, S-corps, etc. might want to make investments directly. Educate yourself so that you can know what you are doing and why, and then go find service providers who can set up what you want. Know WHY you want to do certain things so that they cannot talk you out of what you want.

Caller: Let’s say I have a WF account. When I exchange the major funds, would that be transferred to a holding account until I figure all this out?

RayRen: If you are exchanging at WF, the funds will go into your account. Create a new account for the exchange funds, and then place a smaller amount in your existing account. That doesn’t establish any asset protection, you just have a new account in your name.

Caller: So that money would be in that new account – is that protected?

RayRen: Not any more than your existing account is protected. What do you mean by protected? You have exchanged, you have money in an account in your name, and that is no different than your existing account except that you have more money in it.

[I had to leave the call here.]

610 caller: If you are financially able, please donate by mail, sending your check or money order to Ray Renfrow, PO Box 1748, Elm City, NC 27822.

Closing Statement


Some things are still expected to happen this week, and we’ll see if they unfold. If so, we will be getting in touch with you. I’ll send out an update, or we’ll talk about it on Friday IF we have our regularly scheduled call.

RayRen played I Believe: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9DYrqOUKLtA

TNT Dinar Conference Call w/Rayren98

FACT CHECK #141 by whitehatsauxiliaries , 31 AUGUST

FACT CHECK #141
by whitehatsauxiliaries

Greetings To All of You, I am safely home again and I thank you all for indulging my absence.

Time to move to a clean thread since the last comment count was pretty large.

After some consideration, I have decided to remove the DEFCON system. In its place, just have your material handy and organized, and await word from whence it cometh.

We will do our best to spread word as quickly as possible, should that day arrive. Simply keep in daily contact and have a major federally chartered bank in mind for your possible disposition.

As far as I know, progress is being made on several fronts.
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Whatever information we are made aware of will be released to us at the appropriate times, and there is little else we can do but be ready to act.

The question of public chances continues to be a gray area, with neither a firm "no" or a hard "yes" from on high. We may have to wait until those higher in the pecking order shoot their bolt in order to have a final answer. Stay tuned as things develop.

​Changes are indeed afoot.

My personal advice remains for all to be ready for anything. As I write this, we are under the impression that mid September is the next window for possible public currency moves.

​Don't rely on it, but be ready in case. Stay tight, and get good advice if you get out with a slice.

I know we have several readers from the Houston area. Please let us know if we can be of any assistance. I don't know how we can, but please know we are not unaware and certainly hope all of you are safe and well.
Lastly, while away, and when not busy, I came up with some ideas which, depending on what happens between now and March of 2018, may result in a rather safe and much needed path for some of you who desire economic advancement on limited means.

Again, this all depends on what happens between now and March. Many variables come into play, so for now, no more information. When we get to that point, we will take stock and I will propose possible options.

For now, we will await results from the land of the BSD.

Most sincerely,  WHA

Restored Republic via a GCR Summary as of Aug. 31

Judy Byington,

1. China released the RV last Thurs. Aug. 24.

2. The Cabal's last big Hail Mary to stop the RV was set into motion on Friday Aug. 25. This was a four fold plan (all of this was confirmed, and took four days).

3. On Sun. Aug. 27 at the financial conference in Jackson Hole Wyoming, an announcement was made and documents were signed allowing the USN to be utilized globally.

4. Redemptions first occurred in the Eastern Hemisphere on Sun. night Aug. 27 8pm EDT.

5. The redemption process was in full effect worldwide.

6. Exchanges continued throughout the week in Asia and other BRICS aligned countries with clients that had appointments requested by the banks.

7. By Mon. Aug. 28 redemptions were in process around the world, with over 100,000 exchanges done.

8. On Mon. Aug. 28 Iraq time they were celebrating big time - they have lower denominations, new rates, ATMs up and running, plus were selling infrastructure bonds.

9. On Mon. Aug. 28 Iraq received the Kurd's past oil revenues at the new Dinar rate.

10. On Mon. Aug. 28 210,000 SKRs were paid out globally.

11. In the US on Mon. Aug. 28 paymasters alerted clients of imminent payouts, and traveled some of their clients to redemption locations.

12. By Tues. Aug. 29 General Mattis has gotten the OK from the US President to start US exchanges.

13. By Tues. Aug. 29 several groups were saying that it was a go.

14. Thousands of redemptions were done on Tues. Aug. 29 in tandum with arrests (of those not eligible to exchange because of past indescretions).

15. Some Exchange centers were delibitated because of Hurricane Harvey, but by Tues. Aug. 29 40% were up and running.

16. Tiers 1,2,3 were in the process of being paid.

17. HSBC had a large amount of funds for Tier 4 redemptions.

18. Redemption centers were locked down. Some in Lousiana and Texas could not report in, but exchanges at privately negotiated rates were still expected to take place.

19. On Tues. Aug. 29 Baghdad paid the Kurds approximately 80% of their debt.

20. By Tues. Aug 29 redemptions began happening here in the West. Americans and Canadians were being called in to meet with their favorite paymasters.

21. On Tues. Aug. 29 paymasters were calling in clients for exchanges if they had pre-existing SKRs.

22. SKR clients had long been alerted to participate in the RV at a moments notice, even to be stationed in areas of their redemptions.

23. By Tues. Aug. 29 there was info coming from groups saying they were being notified, then they disappeared (we assume because they signed NDAs).

24. All evidence supported that we could get notification to exchange and release of the 800#s at any time, perhaps this weekend.

25. This was supposed to go by this Thurs. Aug. 31.

26. We should receive notice any time or (by Fri. Sept. 1).

27. Public redemptions would begin around Sept. 14.

KTFA Wednesday Night Conference Call, 31 AUGUST

KTFA Wednesday Night Conference Call

The first part is Business Promo and the second part is Dinar/Iraq Intel

PLAYBACK # : 641.715.3639     PIN: 156996#

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TNT TIDBIT, 31 AUGUST

TNT:

Wednesday UPDATE for August 30, 2017

An article surfaced indicating that PM Abadi was called on to "curb the depletion of hard currency" due to passport carriers of VISA's exchanging 1,200 dinar for $3,000 USD noting these are currency dealers, not basic travelers indicating in the loss of state funds. (Unless I'm misreading this article)

Let's see what tomorrow brings!
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Xyz:  Ambassador to Russia: Iraq free from ISIS 'within days'
http://www.rudaw.net/english/middleeast/iraq/31082017

Xyz:  Kurdistan to pay one billion dollars for oil company’s settlement http://www.iraqtradelinknews.com/2017/08/kurdistan-to-pay-one-billion-​dollars.html

Xyz:  Barzani studies postponing independence referendum http://www.iraqtradelinknews.com/2017/08/barzani-studies-postponing-in​dependence.htmlHe expected that the postponement will be for another six months, but​ he wanted an alternative by the Iraqi government with US, UN, EU and ​National Coalition’s guarantees.

Xyz:  Abadi announces the liberation of Tal Afar and Nineveh fully http://translate.google.com/translate?tl=en&u=http://www.alliraqnews.c​om/modules/news/article.php%3Fstoryid%3D65529

KTFA UPDATE, 31 AUGUST

KTFA:

Samson:  The holiday is five days from Friday to Wednesday

 30th August, 2017

The General Secretariat of the Council of Ministers announced on Wednesday in a brief statement that "Eid al-Adha holiday will begin on Friday 1/9/2017 and resume on Wednesday, 6/9/2017

On Monday, the Iraqi cabinet denied reports that the Eid al-Adha holiday had been set.
The Council pointed out that "the news that the Secretariat of the Council of Ministers announced on Sunday evening that the holiday of Eid al-Adha will begin from Thursday, August 31, until Tuesday, September 5, is incorrect and was published by Before the mass citizen was contacted by the Secretariat and warn of the publication of news in the future. "

It is noteworthy that the Kurdistan Regional Government, set earlier in the days of Eid al-Adha, from August 31, until September 5 next, noting that "on Wednesday, September 6 will be an official term."

https://www.iraqpressagency.com/?p=251957
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Samson:  Municipality of Baghdad: the creation of dozens of recreational facilities for the occasion of Eid al-Adha

31st August, 2017

Baghdad Municipality announced on Thursday the creation of dozens of recreational facilities in the popular cities densely populated on the occasion of Eid al-Adha.

In a statement received by the Iraqi Information Agency (INA)   , the Municipality of Baghdad said that "the first district of Sadr City has completed all preparations to receive the Baghdad families in their recreational facilities and parks equipped with children's games and public services."

"Sadr City is one of the densely populated areas, which necessitated the launch of a pre-emptive campaign to maintain and maintain all parks, parks and maintenance of the games to receive a large number of Baghdadi families who are going to these recreational facilities during the Eid holiday."

He pointed out that "coordination with the security forces to protect these recreational facilities, which will see great interest by the people of Sadr City and miss the opportunity of the terrorist groups that try to disturb the atmosphere and tampering with the security of citizens.   LINK

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Samson:  Contracting with international audit firms

  31st August, 2017

To all licensed banks (contracting with international audit companies)

https://cbi.iq/news/view/389

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Samson:  Ministry of Immigration launches the grant of one million dinars (19,238) family

 31st August, 2017

The Ministry of Displacement and Migration (MoD) on Thursday launched a grant of one million dinars to nearly 20,000 displaced families on Thursday through a smart card distributed throughout the country.

The Director General of Information and Research Department Agency in the ministry, Iman Naji said in a statement received by (Iraqi News Agency Information / INA)   that "the ministry began today to launch the meal 25 of the million grant to displaced families throughout the country and the (19,238) family, which began to distribute today in the whole country, .

Naji pointed out that the financial grants will be received through the smart card,pointing out that the remaining payments will be launched sequentially among displaced families in all governorates of the country.   LINK

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MilitiaMan:  It sure looks to me like they have been working on getting the citizens prepared and educated on we are again going to be a safe place to store wealth in our banks and using gold and vaults for both protection and utility of their wealth. With reasonable fees of course.

This doesn't say dispensing gold coins, but, we hear that is coming if not established already.

The part about compactness of the currency looks to be the lion share of it is now outside the country, thus, liquidity must be tight while they transition which suggests the plan has gotten to the point of final execution that is to come.

This is part of the light speed, imo -MM

Walkingstick:  Stability and confidence in the banking system

 The talk about the manifestations of compactness takes various dimensions in Iraq. Between the coinage in kind such as gold or gold occupied (Almkhshalat) jewelry and precious valuables and the compactness of the Iraqi dinar, which accounts for about 77 percent of the currency exported outside the Central Bank of Iraq as well as foreign currency.

The national economy is losing one of its strength factors by shifting its savings, which support the cycles of income and production, to leakage in the income cycle or weaken the chances of production and economic activity. 
The demand for money or money-like forms of money for hedging purposes only, or its designation as a term, is also applied to the request for criticism for purposes of theoretical intervention and an assessment of the role of risk in the behavior of monetary demand.

Accordingly, the history of Iraqi banking during the last century has witnessed the phenomena of exchanging gold in paper currency by placing gold as a hostage in the form of goldsmiths or moneylenders for interest. Demand for money here helps ensure that gold is taken out of cash leaks into the spending cycle and economic activity, but market instruments are illegal, so demand for cash is for transaction purposes but income cycles are not necessarily complete and do not lead to real economic equilibrium.

The modern economic history of Iraq, especially in the sixties of the last century witnessed the start of the establishment of a government bank called the Mortgage Bank as a legal and legal alternative to the phenomenon of moneylenders and the whole illegal market in the provision of cash loans guaranteed by gold; the Bank of mortgages in the provision of cash loans for the retention of gold that is in the possession of the borrower Until the maturity date of the loan or repayment against interest charged by the Mortgage Bank to cover the operating costs and part of the risk of fluctuating the value of the same security from the liquid or gold coins occupied.

But unfortunately the bank canceled the bank in the early seventies of the last century for reasons I do not really know. In spite of this, the banks remained in a semi-banking relationship with customers in providing some services. Banks or personal bank vaults remained available to citizens and were available for use within each bank, especially the government, especially the Rafidain and Rasheed banks. Gold and its valuable assets and important documents in those secure accommodation for a wage and a 100% security rate for a monthly or annual fee.

 The absence of this safe service cut off one of the bonds between the citizen and the bank as an entity that preserves the wealth of the society and creates an atmosphere of direct links between individuals and banks. .

In conclusion, I call on the Central Bank of Iraq to proceed with the study of granting a license to an Iraqi bank for mortgages (mortgage gold occupied for monetary money), which strengthens the bank credit and turns the quasi-fortified wealth into a guarantor force in generating demand for money for the purposes of transactions and support economic activity, and promised one of the channels In addition to maximizing the atmosphere of trust between the banks and the deity to receive their gold and other precious valuables in safe vaults at the banks for easy wages, stressing at the same time the importance of starting the activity of Daman Al Deposits that the public is looking for soon to check on his bank deposit from the risks of banks' exposure and failures.

http://www.alsabaah.iq/missing.aspx

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FaithPrevails:  This title speaks of Internationalism, no room for interpretation

Samson:  IFAD in a new partnership with Iraq in the field of agricultural investment

14:55 - 31/08/2017
The International Development Fund (IDF) met with a high-level Iraqi delegation in Rome in an important step towards financing the first post-war Iraq investment project.

"The project is aimed at providing agricultural support to 20,000 poor rural families in the southern provinces of Maysan, Dhi Qar, Diwaniyah and Samawa," Relive Web reported in a news release.

"The rationale for the current project stems from the fragility of the situation in Iraq and the commitment of the IMF to help countries with weak conditions," said Khaleda Buzar, IFAD's director for the Near East and North Africa.

She added that "the fund has considerable experience in the areas in which the Government of Iraq need assistance, such as agriculture and rural development," noting that "investment in agricultural growth is not only important national income also but it is vital for the growth of employment, food and poverty reduction in Iraq."

The site said that "due to the ministries of agriculture, water resources and the environment implementation of the project, where will enhance adaptation to climate change, the capacity as well as improving productivity and profit from crops and livestock for small-scale producers by providing access to finance, technology and markets Indemnified".

http://www.almaalomah.com/2017/08/31/231368/

MilitiaMan:  "parliamentarian, turned the equation to distribute the oil resources to the people under Article 111 of the Constitution by adopting a tax system for the state to carry out its duties."

Distribute the oil resources to the people so they can store there wealth in gold at the banks.. what a novel idea!! Since they have little liquidity or a compactness of the local currency now, the theme sure appears they are in a transitional place that needs to be put in place asap and all the while stamping out corruption.. Nothing but good..IMO - MM

Walkingstick:  Methodology of financial reform

Thamer Hymes

 is optimistic about the serious and sincere proposals to develop our economy that two well-known Iraqi women, with experience, sincerity and academic weight, are developing successful visions to cope with unusual conditions and published the morning.

Dr. The appearance of Mohammed Saleh proposals can be implemented through his vision of the possibilities and circumstances surrounding; it puts its touches in the financial reform of the years (2018 2020) in the light of financial conditions and ways to address and the strengthening of non-oil resources.

Professor Adnan al-Janabi, one of the engineers and founders of the National Oil Company and the veteran parliamentarian, turned the equation to distribute the oil resources to the people under Article 111 of the Constitution by adopting a tax system for the state to carry out its duties.

In the light of Saleh's argument, tax resources are equivalent to 2 percent of GDP and non-oil imports account for 5 percent of total imports.

The view of al-Janabi is closer to radicalism than to reality d. Appearance; but this vision remains the most effective treatment for the eradication of ills, requiring unconventional methods of work.

There is no doubt that the two approaches are complementary if soft power is achieved through the enactment of laws that represent the infrastructure for starting towards maximizing non-oil resources, whether through direct or indirect tax resources or reducing  spending.

We hope that the discussion through the press articles and columns will be a key input for change, but through this platform we call for holding specialized conferences with ready-made integrated work papers eligible to be draft laws for the interpretation and activation of Article 111 of the Constitution, preceded by draft laws prepared by those who agree with them in principle, whether universities or With a strategic mind to achieve the goal under a known time frame.

It is necessary to review systematically all the old and modern laws that impede the implementation of what the authors put forward through a special committee to submit it as drafts of alternative laws to the Council of Ministers in line with the text of Constitutional Article 111 as a basis; so that the projects do not go down the wind and in order not to accumulate loans that do not comply with the basic international standards .

There is a possibility to activate the paper d. The appearance of Mohammed Saleh or the vision of Mr. Al-Janabi, but they must be immediately followed to establish the appropriate economic climate as the ground for a project that puts an end to corruption.

http://www.alsabaah.iq/missing.aspx

IQD CHAT, 31 AUGUST

Chat Room News Excerpts & Highlights Thursday  Early  PM 8-31-17

tman23: ERBIL — A Turkmen leader from the Shi’ite Badr Organization called for ousting Iraqi President Fuad Masum, and all the Kurdish ministers from Baghdad, in response to the independence vote the Kurdistan Region has planned to hold in September.

In an interview with Baghdad-based Al Rasheed TV, Mohammad Mahdi al-Bayati, the Shi’ite militia leader said that the President of Iraq must leave Baghdad, arguing that “there is no sense that the president is from Kurds.”
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“The Kurdish ministers should also leave, and all the real estate in Baghdad and other provinces, belonging to Kurds should be confiscated,” Bayati said. He also called for stripping Kurds of Iraqi citizenship, and demanded Baghdad to refuse to recognize the Kurdistan state.........
NATIONAL RECONCILIATION MEETING WILL BE IN THE COMING DAYS.........BAAAH !! LOL

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Spectra: @txbrand that sounds delicious

txbrand: can't believe we stayed dry.... https://www.click2houston.com/weather/sky-2-surveys-flood-damage

Spectra: @txbrand well that's a miracle!

txbrand: @Spectra our property value should go up
txbrand: thats what they are saying

Spectra: @txbrand PROBUBLY

Spectra: Texas Man Uses Massive Inflatable Dam to Save House Editor’s note: This post was originally published on June 12, 2016. One man in Rosharon, Texas used a product he found online to protect his family’s home and property during flooding in 2016.

KHOU reports Randy Wagner felt devastated when local officials ordered residents to evacuate their homes. In a desperate attempt to protect his home from the flood waters, Wagner drove all the way to Louisiana to pick up a product he found online, an Aqua Dam.

Spectra: http://www.wideopencountry.com/houston-man-uses-massive-inflatable-dam-save-house/

Spectra: Pretty cool wow, this looks like it may have worked
Spectra: Amazing product!

Duke77: @Spectra that's really cool! I wonder how anyone could come up with such a genius idea. That's the kind of neighbor you want if survival skills are ever needed in the event of an invasion

Spectra: i guess that is one way of looking at but ,i feel we need to defend our selves and not rely on anyone!

Duke77: 8-31-2017 *** Dinar Guru Breaking News *** ABC, CNN, BBC and other news organizations are reporting PM Abadi has declared victory over and liberation of Tal Afar and the Nineveh province.

This is a HUGE victory for Iraq and follows the liberation of Mosul earlier this summer. Also, article, "Jordan, Iraq reopen border crossing, vital to trade." This is their sole crossing and has been closed since 2015.

Stay tuned as the gurus chime in to report on the significance of both of these major events and their possible impact on the Iraqi dinar. The latest guru updates will continue below.

Duke77: What about the article that Rayren is claiming came out about the depleting of currency due to dealers giving $3,000 for 1,200 dinar

Doug_W: 2.50 each Eh

tman23: The U.S.-led coalition released a statement on Thursday congratulating the Iraqi Security Forces on their "stunning victory" in Tal Afar........... STUNNING VICTORY....

Spectra: WE KNOW!TY :)
Doug_W: thats really cool Spec
Spectra: @Doug_W It is a wonder
Spectra: @Doug_W but you need to cut your tree line down to acomadate it

MichelleL: rayren is getting 2.50 per d huh? :laugh

MichelleL: oh well, how come my daydreaming currency converter never comes up with these prices? out for the rest of the day, have fun kiddies!

abangjadul: @Spectra are we there yet

tman23: Shiite meeting on Kurd independence......... Her is some of the discussion that will help with "national reconciliation"....... BAAH !! Kurds have no history. Their origin is unknown and it is doubtful that Allah ever created them.

Their language is a mix of Farisi/Arabic and again Allah did not give them any language. Their origins may be from the "Ginn". Their leaders are Mafia. There is no such thing as Kurdistan. North Iraq is part of Iraq. Iraq is an Arab state.

omaatje: maybe the shiites should create a commission to study the declaration of human rights
tman23: Makes you wonder....... If lower denoms are printed as described in past including the Kurdish language..... What is the reaction of the Shiite to this after the independence vote...... What is the reaction of the Shiite to Kurdistan using the Iraqi dinar if it has a new value and displays national pride........

Zig: "Duke77: What about the article that Rayren is claiming came out about the depleting of currency due to dealers giving $3,000 for 1,200 dinar".......... ;crap; Like everything else that comes out of his mouth.....

Duke77: @Zig lol I remember an article a couple weeks ago talking about 3000 dollars or 1200 dinar being allowed for travel to mecca. I think that's what he's twisting. Maybe we should twist his arm till he tells the truth.

abangjadul: @tman23 25 dinars: King Hammurabi receiving the law and farming of Iraqi Kurdistan

abangjadul: @tman23 5 dinars: Beck waterfall and palm tree 10 dinars: dinar coin minted in the reign of the Umayyad dynasty and lighthouse Hadba in Mosul 25 dinars: King Hammurabi receiving the law and farming of Iraqi Kurdistan 50 dinars: King Codaa and Fort Ukhaydir 100 dinars: Central Bank building in Azwaip area in Baghdad and ziggurat 200 dinars: bridge and school

abangjadul: @tman23 500 iqd still have kurd language

tman23: @abangjadul .....The monetary reform which entails a new currency without the 3 zeros..... This is the currency I refer to....... One would think it has no significance with regards to who uses it and what is printed on it.... But this is Iraq and the mentality is 18th century.......

txbrand: @tman23 new currency without the 3 zeros.....what do you think ?
txbrand: after they said that they are ignoring the zeros... makes ya wonder

Duke77: Iraq hasn't even mentioned the 3 zeros in several months. They are making it just fine on USD. Why stop now?? That's the question I wish someone could legitimately answer!

RickeyT: @Duke77 did you actually buy diner? silly boy!
RickeyT: @Duke77 we bought a pig in a poke as my grandma used to say

Doug_W: them I got MANY pigs in a poke T

tman23: @txbrand ...... When dealing with 3 zeros it makes accounting a nightmare..... Then when you take 12 trillion dinar and show it equals 9,723,998,125.68.00 .....

One can see how easy a miscalculation can be made to skim some money...... So if clamping down on corruption is a plan, then getting rid of the 3 zeros in accounting has to be at the front......

It seems logical that after an invasion like ISIS that the CBI and GOI would make a call on the currency under the same pretenses that other countries have following these circumstances.......

jwflatt: I see that Dinar recaps edits post from this site
Spectra: @jwflatt i hope so!---lol
Spectra: @jwflatt because many on here talk about trivial stuff

Duke77: Yes I have dinar and I've bought and given dinar away to others who couldn't afford it. I want to see one real reason why Iraq needs their own currency. Doesn't Dubai she the USD??

tman23: @Duke77 ........ Sure they can use the USD forever and their currency in country....... Bahamas does it and if you leave with their currency there is no where to exchange it except back in the Bahamas.....

And the CBI has a great gig going if that were the case......print cheap paper and export it to build capital reserves......Maybe this is what Bush meant when he said help Iraq by investing........... and the only thing to invest in was their useless currency........

At the end of the day......WE are in the same speculation we invested in at the beginning of this venture......Nothing gained money wise....with the fact that it lost some value.......

To make the statement.....I am waiting for someone to prove to me........... Whelp, if you did your due diligence before you purchased you would know the thought of the concept was ludicrous to begin with AND the region has been a cesspool for 5,000 years....... That being said.....

There are times in life when people fall into a barrel of sh*t and come out with 10 gold bracelets on each are arm....... If this event takes place, you will be one of those people...... AND all those that doubted won't be around......they will be gone about jumping in every barrel of sh*t looking for gold bracelets.........

Spectra: @tman23 your feisty today! ;Spectra:

Alembic86: @tman23 - Thank you for using the word IF. People need to remember that this change in currency value is NOT a sure thing. It is a very speculative investment. IF it happens, we will be very pleased. IF it does not, then we will have lost some or all of our investment. That is the reality.

Whitelions: @Spectra We were just talking about having a sex toy party in the skype room I guess that is more exsiteing that dinner I'm making Turkey mashed potato's and squash for dinner tonight lol

Whitelions: A stable outlook for Iraqi international bonds 31/8/2017 12:00 am A stable outlook for Iraqi international bondsBaghdad / Mustafa Al Hashemi Fitch and Standard & Poor’s have agreed to raise the credit rating of Iraq to B with a stable outlook that strengthens the country’s financial position in the global bond market.
To a stable outlook, and Standard & Poor’s recently granted Iraq a stable outlook. In 2017, Iraq issued two successive international sovereign debt instruments, which are linked to the international capital market.

The first is the (Tigris) bond at a rate of 2.149 percent with a value of US $ 1 million issued by the US government.

The second sovereign bond issued by the Iraqi government and its credit rating – B and carries interest at about 6.75 percent, which is lower than the Iraqi international bond traded in the secondary secondary markets since 2006.

According to the academic economist d. The credit rating agency Standard & Poor’s has given Iraq a stable outlook, indicating that the agency has confirmed its credit rating for Iraq at B- / B with a stable outlook. At the same time, it is expected that the impact of oil production cuts on Iraq’s economic growth in 2017 .

Whitelions: He Mahouelle “morning”: the agency attributed the reason for granting a stable look to Iraq, to the expectations of continued efforts to control expenditures in the next few years, stressing that the classification receives support from the Iraqi oil production is concentrated in the areas under the firm control of the federal government.

According to a statement by the Fitch Foundation, it identified the bonds issued by Iraq at the valuation of B, explaining that this assessment is consistent with the long-term credit rating of the country’s foreign currency.

“The rating of bonds will be sensitive to long-term foreign currency changes, which is why the institution has long ago revised its rating from negative to a stable outlook.” The prime minister’s finance adviser, Mohammed Saleh, said earlier that Iraq had issued the foreign sovereign bond (Euphrates) in the international capital market, which is payable after five years and a 6.75 percent interest paid every six months.

Whitelions: Stability and confidence in the banking system 31/8/2017 Stability and confidence in the banking systemAuthor: Dr. The appearance of Mohammed Saleh Still, talk about the manifestations of compactness takes various dimensions in Iraq.

 Between the coinage in kind, such as gold or gold occupied (Almkhshalat) jewelry and precious valuables and the compactness of the Iraqi dinar, which accounts for about 77 percent of the currency exported outside the Central Bank of Iraq as well as foreign currency.

 The national economy is losing one of its strength factors by shifting its savings, which support the cycles of income and production, to leakage in the income cycle or weaken the chances of production and economic activity.

The demand for money or forms of money-like wealth for hedging purposes only, or its designation as a term, is also applied to the request for criticism for purposes of theoretical intervention and assessment of the role of risk in the behavior of monetary demand.

Accordingly, the history of Iraqi banking during the last century has witnessed the phenomena of exchanging gold in paper currency by placing gold as a hostage at the goldsmiths or moneylenders for interest. The demand for money here helps ensure that gold is taken out of cash leaks to the spending cycle and economic activity, but market instruments are illegal.

Demand for cash is for transaction purposes, but income cycles are not necessarily complete and do not lead to real economic equilibrium. The modern economic history of Iraq, especially in the sixties of the last century witnessed the start of the establishment of a government bank called the Mortgage Bank as a legal and legal alternative to the phenomenon of moneylenders and the whole illegal market in the provision of cash loans secured by gold;

the Bank of mortgages in the provision of cash loans for the retention of gold that is in the possession of the borrower Until the maturity date of the loan or repayment against interest

Whitelions: charged by the Mortgage Bank to cover the operating costs and part of the risk of fluctuating the value of the same security from the liquid or gold coins occupied. But unfortunately the bank canceled the bank in the early seventies of the last century for reasons I do not really know.

 However, the banks remained in a semi-banking relationship with customers in the provision of some services. However, bank funds or personal bank vaults remained available to citizens and are available for use within each bank, especially the government, especially the Rafidain and Rashid banks.

The citizen can retain his losses Gold and its valuable assets and important documents in those secure accommodation for a wage and a 100% security rate for a monthly or annual fee is cut. The absence of this safe service cut off one of the bonds between the citizen and the bank as an entity that preserves the wealth of society and creates an atmosphere of direct links between individuals and banks. .

Whitelions: In conclusion, I call on the Central Bank of Iraq to proceed with the study of granting a license to an Iraqi bank for mortgages (mortgage gold occupied for monetary money),

which strengthens the bank credit and turns the quasi-fortified wealth to a guarantor force in generating demand for money for the purposes of transactions and support economic activity,
and promised one of the channels In addition to maximizing the atmosphere of trust between the banks and the deity to receive their gold and other valuable valuables in safe vaults at the banks for affordable wages, stressing the importance of starting the activity of the Daman Company.

Deposits that the public is looking for soon to check on its bank deposit from the risks of banks’ exposure and failures. In addition, it reduces the demand for liquid cash, which is an unstable function and is highly correlated with the uncertainty of individuals asking for cash in liquid form (Quarantine) or quasi-money, and to prevent the entry of the cycle of income and deprive the cycle of economic activity to fuel and active material money.

Spectra: @Whitelions oh 'jeez you guys are really loosing it now-lol
Spectra: @Whitelions next thing you know mod will saying ill be right i need to go potty! :yes:

RickeyT: @tman23 do you mean to tell me that I wore the knees out on my bluejeans praying ..... was all for nothing?

RickeyT: @tman23 "pray and it will come true!"

Zodiac22: Hi.. anyone knows if the call from August 30th.. with Okie etc.is working I tried the link.. it went back to a prior call...

[pm]mod: @Zodiac22 www.iqdcalls.com/outlaws.html

Spectra: CBI Contracting with international audit firms https://youtu.be/l-NKlEMWTEo

[pm]mod: @Zodiac22 they said 26th but they did no call on 26th it was 30th

Zodiac22: mod.. thank is that the call that is 2 hr 29 mins? OK that is interesting.. very confusing..

Zodiac22: mod.. was worth listening to? the entire 2 hrs and 29 mins.. or just parts..? I appreciate your assistance...

Zodiac22: Thank you for your help.. have a great day and weekend...

txbrand: you can not get cash out of the bank here.. (texas) .they dont know when they will get a truck in to replenish the cash

Spectra: @txbrand NOT GOOD

txbrand: ;no; ;sad2;
Spectra: @txbrand :yes:

txbrand: They had to postpone opening of new Krogers... 20 days cant get the truck here
Spectra: @txbrand not good again

 txbrand: i cant get antenna to work....

MichelleL: I stopped shopping in brick and mortar places for things like vitamins a while back, but I can't wait 10-15 days without stuff I need - kind of worried about my mail order bp pill


Spectra: @MichelleL i was thinking they could always turn houston into a venician style city!

MichelleL: you may need to do a reset, have it find channels again - I had to do that before

Spectra: @MichelleL gondala's included


MichelleL: @txbrand randalls was out of everything and jacked prices up - which isn't unusual for that store anyway
txbrand: omg

MichelleL: @txbrand not one loaf of sliced bread lol and ice cream is through the roof, don't they know this is "sale" season?

txbrand: illegal    that is so illegal

MichelleL: @txbrand yeah, but this is a vacation paradise, they do it all the time - kroger is a bit more legit      but its much more massive, harder to do a quick run to kroger

txbrand: r went to HEB...no bread
MichelleL: @txbrand they do it all the time, always illegal

MichelleL: @txbrand I'm going to HEB in League City tomorrow, we will see - dont care much about bread, more about things like some fresh salmon, some meat

txbrand: R has to have his bread...not me...lol

Alembic86: Just got some gas here in North Texas. There were 32 cars in line after I bought my gas...many very angry at having to wait. Hmmm...

Alembic86: I have not seen lines this long since Jimmy Carter was President.

Spectra: @Alembic86 terrible 
​txbrand: someone from Dallas said you better get gas now...may not have it for a while....omg

Alembic86: I also bought 3 gas cans worth (11 gallons).

Spectra: @Alembic86 so sorry you having to go through this!

Alembic86: I hope it's not just us North Texans...

txbrand: Hubby is going to fill up now...thats one way we can get cash out of bank...lol

Alembic86: ^ it is just us^
Alembic86: Are your banks not giving any cash out...even ATMs?\

Spectra: @Alembic86 yes it is

txbrand: @Alembic86 bank wont take cash either

Alembic86: Why is that?

txbrand: i dont know...guard said it... a lady was trying to put cash in at atm

Alembic86: Glad it's just us...like I said, I remember from the Jimmy Carter days. I also read once that a LOT of babies were conceived during that time...imagine that. :D

txbrand: guess it was closed...hubby didnt say why
txbrand: i would guess lots of employees not showing up either
txbrand: hubby talk to every thing on 2 legs...sometimes 4... guard was chatty too...lol

WSOMN CHAT, 31 AUGUST

TED1016: 
So here we are again folks looking down the short end of the week and no better off financially (for most of us that is) than we were over the course of the last several years (plus in some cases) and I know what is on the mind of many here and that is “when is this thing ever going to end?’ If only I knew, I would most certainly tell you but the truth is, I am pretty much confused as the rest of you.

Is it going to be completed this month or the next month or as some have predicted next year? Just pick a date or time frame and let it go from there or depend on some military action, Heck folks your guess is just as good as theirs. Despite their so called reliable sources. You know it would not surprise me one bit to find out that the whole kit and caboodle was being held by the currency sellers. :0)

Most Gracious and Heavenly Father be with those who are braving nature’s wrath on our Gulf Coast rescuing smart people and dumb animals from the rising waters created by the Hurricane. Or perhaps I may have that backward maybe it is rescuing smart animals and dumb people. After all it is not like the folks down there did not have advanced notice of the possible dangers.

Dear Lord God Almighty why do these humans created in Your Image risk the most precious of all they have and that being their very lives in order to save material possessions that can be repaired or replaced at any time. Lord You gave us a brain to ponder nature and all of the creations of our world but so many of them have no real sense of priorities. Lord Please forgive those who perished needlessly.

I know, this was not one of my most inspirational prayers sessions that I have brought to my friends here on the Chambord’s but it is meant to be a teaching moment. If one person learns a lesson from this session and then it will be worth the time and effort than it has taken me to create it. Rest well my friends and be most appreciative of the day you have before you. Many have been lost. Amen and Amen



Is that from 8 am to noon each day? No Sat & Sun, got that.

JUST M W F...

ADDED MOD-LESS SATURDAY NIGHTS 6 UNTIL 8 PM MOUNTAIN TIME WITH YOURS TRULY LURKING IN THE BACKGROUND.

HAS EVERYONE SEEN NEW HOURS FOR CHATROOM IN THE BANNER ABOVE? THEY BEGIN FRIDAY...

i might have dp withdrawal with those hours

Hope I don't make everyone mad but got a question about the president, how do you tell everyone about taxes an any form or fashion and you don't pay taxes yourself? I just don't get it

TREL- GREAT QUESTION, HE PAYS TAXES BUT USES TO THE TAX CODE TO HIS ADVANTAGE, JUST LIKE YOU WILL DO WHEN YOU RECIEVE THIS BLESSING

TREL- I WOULD CAUTION YOU IN BELIEVING EVERYTHING THE MEDIA PUTS OUT, IT SEEMS TO BE ONE-SIDED- IMO

RC we would know the truth if we could see taxes

TREL- I HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU. HOW IS IT A PRESIDENT CAN GO INTO THE HIGHEST OFFICE BROKE AND LEAVE A MILLIONAIRE

Who was broke

TREL- I REALLY COULD CARE LESS ABOUT THEIR TAXES, BUT WHAT WILL THE PRESIDENT DO FOR ALL AMERICANS

U mean after doing for himself and all other millionaires

He said in a debate that he uses a loophole to not pay taxes. But tells us to pay our taxes

So-It is part of the current tax laws.. You will too I am sure. He didn't write the tax laws, he is just using them.

TREL PLEASE BE RESPECTFUL SORRY YOU DON'T LIKE THE PRES THAT IS WHAT YOU HAVE PROBABLY 8 YEARS BUT WE ARE NOT GONNA FIND FAULT IN HERE I WOULDN'T LET THEM WHEN OBAMA WAS PRES EITHER
Why is it Trel be respectful I said no name and no-one did but me the only one being disrespectful

YOU WERE THE ONE I SAW IF THER ARE OTHERS THEN IT NEEDS TO STOP

Then read everything no just one person

TREL I AM SORRY I DO NEED TO GO DOWN AND READ I SAT DOWN AND THAT IS WHAT I SAW MY APOLOGIES

WE WERE HAVING A RESPECTFUL CONVERSATION, MYSELF AND TREL

RC SORRY I GUESS I EASEDROPPED LOL

I might open a chat room on the days closed... But the topic must be best knitting stiches for 2017

1700-1900 in California; 1800-2000 in Utah; 1900-2100 in Texas; 2000-2200 in New York for Saturday evening

SATURDAY: CHAT ROOM CLOSED. Did AB change this

Thanks Admin... Sat at 0100 - 0300 ZULU for us fly boys

Can they release the rv/ce here if thousands of dinarians are still in the throes of hurricane recovery? How many have lost their currencies because of it, I wonder. Remember last year we were all set to go when I think there was a big storm on the East Coast and the elec went out all over so that was the excuse for no rv/ce at the time. History repeating itself? Idk.

Actually, last year it was about a huhe snow storm that closed banks and lots of things. So, they said that stopped the rv/ce because it wouldn't be fair to those who couldn't get to the banks, if the bank were even open, that is. Sure.



Snickers think that was Sandy storm? My opinion i feel it dinar goggles. Everything evovles around the currency and its not even ours

Can someone help me to reprogram my phone to get tweets from wsomn please