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Friday, July 28, 2017

TNT Dinar Conference Call w/Rayren98

IQD CHAT, 28 JULY

chattels: good morning all

chattels: Monitors call on US to halt assistance to Iraqi unit for abuse allegations By Rudaw http://www.rudaw.net/english/middleeast/iraq/28072017

chattels: The problem with the foregoing and an enemy like DAESH is that they will commit greater atrocities then the Iraqis if not stopped by the Iraqis and the Iraqis may be stopped or delayed by the suspension of funding. Investigate aggressively, but the sooner DAESH is destroyed the fewer innocent Iraqis will die.

chattels: Mr. Maliki making speech this morning.

http://www.alliraqnews.com/modules/news/article.php?storyid=64282
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chattels: What Does The Future Hold For Iraq's Kirkuk Province ? July 27, 20174:30 PM ET Heard on All Things Considered - The Iraqi province Kirkuk is facing an ISIS insurgency, thousands of displaced people, and tensions between Arab and Kurdish residents. NPR's Robert Siegel talks with Kirkuk Governor Najmaldin Karim.

 http://www.npr.org/2017/07/27/539825467/what-does-the-future-hold-for-iraq-s-kirkuk-province

chattels: " ............ there is another referendum that's never happened that was called for in the Iraqi Constitution that would determine whether Kirkuk is part of Kurdistan or whether it's not part of Kurdistan. When is that referendum ever going to happen ?"

chattels: " Really it has been the Iraqi government that has stood in the way of implementing Article 140 because Article 140 is constitutional."

chattels: " .............our governing council voted and sent a letter to the Iraqi prime ministers to tell us when that referendum will be. And the answer is, well, we can't do it because we haven't had the census."

chattels: Patrick Osgood‏Verified account @PatrickOsgood 39m39 minutes ago Patrick Osgood Retweeted Kirkuk News Desk Interestingly, Karim floats prospect of some accommodation on referendum timing.Patrick Osgood added, K

chattels: " KARIM: Well, I think what we hear from the Americans is actually, this is not the right time. Maybe it should be done after the elections - Iraqi parliamentary elections. So there is an acceptance of it. It's just about the timing. And hopefully we can end up with a resolution or a solution to this issue that will be acceptable to the Kurds, acceptable to the Americans and other friends of Kurds, and also the Iraqi government."

chattels: ANALYSIS: Threat of war hangs over Kurdish independence vote #Kurds Iraqi Kurdistan's referendum will include disputed areas such as Sinjar and Kirkuk, and betray divisions between Kurdish groups

 http://www.middleeasteye.net/news/uphill-struggles-faces-iraqi-kurdistan-run-independence-referendum-1450988794

chattels: "The referendum in 2005 was arranged and campaigned for by civil society organizations," he explained. "This one is formal and held by the government and political parties. "This one is binding and the other was not."

chattels: "We don’t want to accept being their subordinate. This is in order to prevent a bigger problem, to prevent a bloody war, and the deterioration of the security of the whole region.

chattels: "They [KRG] would fight for Kirkuk certainly, and probably Sinjar as well," David M Witty, analyst and former US Army Special Forces Colonel, told Middle East Eye.

chattels: "I think the Peshmerga would probably prevail," said Witty. "The Iraqi forces are just worn out - on paper they should win, but in reality, probably not."

chattels: For the first time maybe ever it seems like Kurdistan is a more valuable friend for outside powers than Baghdad - Nate Rabkin, analyst

chattels: ............ conflict between Baghdad and Erbil - not to mention the numerous other factions with their own competing interests - starts to look increasingly likely. "I think it definitely raises the risk of violence in the disputed territories but I don't think it necessarily means that things have to go in a violent way," said Rabkin.

"I think that both the KRG and Baghdad and many of the Shia PMU leaders would much prefer to avoid any violent clashes there."

"But given the past rhetoric on both sides and the passions this enflames and of course just how many different armed groups you have acting there, especially on the pro-government side, I think there's a real potential for a miscalculation or a misunderstanding, leading to ugly violence in one or more of these areas."

spanki: seems to me that the kurds could war over the disputed territory, their military is better
spanki: they keep threatening to split anyway

chattels: Off to court, laterz all.
chattels: @spanki gm
spanki: later c - good luck
spanki: hey

chattels: @spanki tyvm, but my client likely hopes that the outcome has less to do with luck and more to do with my preparedness :)
spanki: of course u r prepared !!

xyz: Kubish discusses with Abadi and al-Amiri referendum on independence of Kurdistan

http://translate.google.com/translate?sp=nmt4&tl=en&u=http://www.alliraqnews.com/modules/news/article.php%3Fstoryid%3D64283

The Special Representative of the UN Secretary-General for Iraq, Jan Kubic, met separately with Prime Minister Haider al-Abbadi and Secretary-General of the Badr Organization, leader of the Popular Rally MP Hadi al-Amiri.

A statement by the United Nations Mission in Iraq [UNAMI] a copy of it released today that Kubish met with Abadi yesterday and discussed "topics of national reconciliation and the referendum on independence in the Kurdistan region and other political developments.
" They also discussed "Iraq's participation in the next session of the UN General Assembly". Kubic discussed with Amiri in another meeting, "Issues related to the liberation processes and the latest political developments, in addition to the referendum on independence in the Kurdistan region." There was no statement from the office of Abadi or Amiri about these meetings.

Whitelions: @chattels that's a lot of one sided news I know you favor the kurds but there are other tribes that live in Iraq an they are coming together to unite as one country that's the only way they can move forward in this world no matter how you feel , yes they were wronged and that's not a strong enough word but now they all need to heel for the future of the children .

Whitelions: Iraq and the world has to get over what was and deal with the now to get to the future and they are not the only ones so do we .

Whitelions: in this room

Baxter: Ho Hum... another Dinar Day... Maliki... the Kurds... Isis... Article 140... Erbil... to Rv or Not Rv... To Float.. or not to Float.. will it ever end...?? Probably not in our lifetime.....time to go to Wally World....

chattels: @Whitelions I am a confessed and unabashed Kurdish sympathizer it is true.

chattels: @Whitelions Nevertheless, i do think that Baghdad / Iraq is a failed state in the near and longer term.

chattels: We shall see what is best for the region. I do not profess to know.

chattels: Of course, I hope that whatever the outcome that it allows for some success for our currency speculation.

chattels: Would that we all could prosper, but history tells us too many times of winners and losers.

D-HB @chattels with all that needs to be done over there,non-currencywise or non-monetarywise(electricity/rebuilding/etc), one needs to look past their speculation. I think the country needs to get back on their feet in other areas before they will truly worry about their exchange rate.

A dinar is still a dinar and always will be a dinar, no matter what it is worth over here. A rise in the value 'to us' won't help them rebuild their country, imo

spanki: 5-10 yrs to get on their feet--

chattels: @D-HB " A rise in the value 'to us' won't help them rebuild their country, imo " - I tend to share your opinion.

D-HB: @chattels do you also agree that they need to rebuild in other non-monetary areas before they worry about it?

chattels: @D-HB My hope is that there is a macroeconomic " deus ex machina " which may allow for some greater value sooner rather than later. Otherwise I will consign my dinar to my children or my children's children.

D-HB: @chattels forgive my ignorance and/or stupidity, but what does macroeconomic " deus ex machina mean?

chattels: @D-HB Money makes the world go around. Iraq must first control their borders, rebuild and function as an inclusive government.

D-HB: my hope is that we will see 'something' because of them saying in articles that they will increase the value....."soon"

chattels: @D-HB Iraq needs money to do the first two items on my list.

D-HB: they have money. It's just not at a high enough value to 'us'. A dinar is still a dinar, right?

chattels: @D-HB Macroeconomics is a branch of the economics field that studies how the aggregate economy behaves. In macroeconomics, a variety of economy-wide phenomena is thoroughly examined such as, inflation, price levels, rate of growth, national income, gross domestic product and changes in unemployment. It focuses on trends in the economy and how the economy moves as a whole.

AND " deus ex machina " : 1 : a god introduced by means of a crane (see 1crane 3a) in ancient Greek and Roman drama to decide the final outcome 2 : a person or thing (as in fiction or drama) that appears or is introduced suddenly and unexpectedly and provides a contrived solution to an apparently insoluble difficulty
" They also discussed "Iraq's participation in the next session of the UN General Assembly". Kubic discussed with Amiri in another meeting, "Issues related to the liberation processes and the latest political developments, in addition to the referendum on independence in the Kurdistan region." There was no statement from the office of Abadi or Amiri about these meetings.

Whitelions: @chattels that's a lot of one sided news I know you favor the kurds but there are other tribes that live in Iraq an they are coming together to unite as one country that's the only way they can move forward in this world no matter how you feel , yes they were wronged and that's not a strong enough word but now they all need to heel for the future of the children .

Whitelions: Iraq and the world has to get over what was and deal with the now to get to the future and they are not the only ones so do we .

Whitelions: in this room

Baxter: Ho Hum... another Dinar Day... Maliki... the Kurds... Isis... Article 140... Erbil... to Rv or Not Rv... To Float.. or not to Float.. will it ever end...?? Probably not in our lifetime.....time to go to Wally World....

chattels: @Whitelions I am a confessed and unabashed Kurdish sympathizer it is true.

chattels: @Whitelions Nevertheless, i do think that Baghdad / Iraq is a failed state in the near and longer term.

chattels: We shall see what is best for the region. I do not profess to know.

chattels: Of course, I hope that whatever the outcome that it allows for some success for our currency speculation.

chattels: Would that we all could prosper, but history tells us too many times of winners and losers.

D-HB @chattels with all that needs to be done over there,non-currencywise or non-monetarywise(electricity/rebuilding/etc), one needs to look past their speculation. I think the country needs to get back on their feet in other areas before they will truly worry about their exchange rate.

A dinar is still a dinar and always will be a dinar, no matter what it is worth over here. A rise in the value 'to us' won't help them rebuild their country, imo

spanki: 5-10 yrs to get on their feet--

chattels: @D-HB " A rise in the value 'to us' won't help them rebuild their country, imo " - I tend to share your opinion.

D-HB: @chattels do you also agree that they need to rebuild in other non-monetary areas before they worry about it?

chattels: @D-HB My hope is that there is a macroeconomic " deus ex machina " which may allow for some greater value sooner rather than later. Otherwise I will consign my dinar to my children or my children's children.

D-HB: @chattels forgive my ignorance and/or stupidity, but what does macroeconomic " deus ex machina mean?

chattels: @D-HB Money makes the world go around. Iraq must first control their borders, rebuild and function as an inclusive government.

D-HB: my hope is that we will see 'something' because of them saying in articles that they will increase the value....."soon"

chattels: @D-HB Iraq needs money to do the first two items on my list.

D-HB: they have money. It's just not at a high enough value to 'us'. A dinar is still a dinar, right?

chattels: @D-HB Macroeconomics is a branch of the economics field that studies how the aggregate economy behaves. In macroeconomics, a variety of economy-wide phenomena is thoroughly examined such as, inflation, price levels, rate of growth, national income, gross domestic product and changes in unemployment. It focuses on trends in the economy and how the economy moves as a whole.

AND " deus ex machina " : 1 : a god introduced by means of a crane (see 1crane 3a) in ancient Greek and Roman drama to decide the final outcome 2 : a person or thing (as in fiction or drama) that appears or is introduced suddenly and unexpectedly and provides a contrived solution to an apparently insoluble difficulty
D-HB: @chattels I'll take your word for it, as I have a real problem trying to even understand that definition ;:));

Doug_W: trust him he's right D-HB

D-HB @Doug_W I always have trusted his words in this thing. Chattels IS one of the good guys

chattels: @D-HB We will call it divine intervention in the economic affairs of men that favors our needed / desired outcome.

D-HB@chattels gotcha, better 'cliff notes' of the definition lol

chattels: @D-HB :)

D-HB: @chattels at the same time, any 'divine intervention' is still left up to 'man' in the end.

chattels: @D-HB Very astute, thus the use of the word " contrived " in the definitions / meanings that I gave you I think.

D-HB: @chattels gotcha, ergo your DAESH interpretation. Was wondering if that was a misprint at first lol

BlackGold: As far as the RV goes, there won't be any divine intervention, it will happen after the " Powers That Be " have exhausted all possiblities of holding up this RV. There is a joke in Europe. The USA does all the wrong things before they do the right one.

Spectra: The actions of our Goverment and the way they use our money is very swine like!

BlackGold: I don't understand why our government simply doesn't say, We don't have the Funds for it in our budget. They do it with everything else

Spectra: bribes

BlackGold: @Brow i know what you mean, but i'm not going to try and judge who is faking and who isn't. Its our whimpy society

BlackGold: @Brow Remember, we can't play Dodge Ball anymore in school
BlackGold: @Spectra true

Brow: @BlackGold - True
Brow: @Spectra - True

Spectra: Kurdish conference in Washington today 6:07 AM ADMIN Washington/ Iraq TradeLink: The US capital, Washington, is witnessing today holding a conference on the Kurdish referendum and independence.

 The conference is held under the motto "Kurdistan Strategic Ally to America", which shall be attended by US politicians and military personnel. It will be attended by the Kurdish Security Advisor Masrour Barzani and Kirkuk Governor Najm al-din Kareem.

The one-day conference is held in cooperation between Kurdistan 24 Media Establishment and Washington Times daily, which will tackle the questions of referendum, independence and bilateral relations between Washington and Arbil. The paper published a special supplement on the independence of the Kurdish region, with articles discussing the referendum question.

The Kurds are looking for this referendum, due 25 September,2017,that will enable them to achieve their long-aspired dream of independence. The holding of this conference comes within the frame work of

Spectra: Looks like this might be what the hold up could about! Just taking a guess!

Doug_W: sure would love 2 B a fly on that wall

BlackGold: the Kurds keep getting screwed by Iraq but they have no Idea who they are playing with dealing with the US. I believe the US doesn't trust Iraq to back our dollar with oil and to maintain control will be too costly, so they figured we can get a small hold by helping the kurds.

BlackGold: Thats my take and I'm sticking to it

Spectra: The Kurds are looking for this referendum, due 25 September,2017,that will enable them to achieve their long-aspired dream of independence. The holding of this conference comes within the frame work of Kurdish attempts to explain their goals to world decision makers.

Doug_W: @BlackGold AND she thinks my tractor is sexy LOL

BlackGold: kuwait on one side and kurds on the other
Spectra: this is not very far from now!
BlackGold: lol
Spectra: september 25th
BlackGold: @Doug_W lol
 
BlackGold: I just pray we get to see some one the funds from the RV
BlackGold: well people I'm off to work for a few hours
BlackGold: Have a bless day
Spectra: @BlackGold ok have a nice day

Brow: @Spectra - A true story-When My Nephew & his wife had their Child & he was 1 or 2 years of age don't remember His age But He could barely Talk-Who Didn't Know Me or My Name-My Nephew & Wife was in their Living Room were they had a Cross hanging on the Wall & their Child point up To It & Said My Name-It Blew Their Minds & They Had To Call Me & Let Me Know what He said- True Story Believe It or Not

Spectra: @Brow Amazing ! how is the question?
Spectra: @Brow And what does this mean!
Spectra: @Brow Did the child know you were working on the side of God?
BobS: BAGHDAD,— High-ranking Iraqi security officials say up to 7,000 Islamic State group affiliates remain in Iraq after the fall of Mosul, where the group’s leader declared the self-styled caliphate three years ago.

Three intelligence and defense officials also told The Associated Press there are an estimated 4,000 militants in addition to 3,000 supporters who were employed by the group and received salaries. In Syria, there are up to 7,000 militants and 5,000 supporters, they say. The officials spoke to the AP on condition of anonymity because they are not authorized to speak to the press.

In the summer last year, the Pentagon claimed the military campaigns in Iraq and Syria had taken 45,000 enemy combatants off the battlefield and reduced the total number of Islamic State fighters to about 15,000.

Spectra: @Brow Some times we underestimate the knowledge our children are born with...innately!

Doug_W: so another "unnamed" source
BobS: no no.......that is the name....unnamed.....lol

Brow: @Spectra - Before Birth up to 5yrs Old is the Most Important time of Their Life-That the Years that Shape them & yes they see things & hear things We can't

Spectra: @Brow i agree!

txbrand: http://truepundit.com/congress-calls-for-special-counsel-for-criminal-investigation-of-hillary-clinton-comey-lynch-2016-election-collusion/ House Judiciary Republicans Call For Second Special Counsel To Investigate Clinton, Comey, Lynch ;oh;

txbrand: ;clap

txbrand: http://truepundit.com/congress-calls-for-special-counsel-for-criminal-investigation-of-hillary-clinton-comey-lynch-2016-election-collusion/ House Judiciary Republicans Call For Second Special Counsel To Investigate Clinton, Comey, Lynch ;oh;

txbrand: ;clap

txbrand: she is talking about it ....love her...lol

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/askshow/2017/07/28/the-andrea-shea-king-show

BobS: agreed to Cairo and Amman on joint industrial cooperation for the reconstruction of Iraq and Syria. The agreement was announced and Egyptian Minister of Industry Tariq Cain in particular for the "seventh day" of Jordan 's statements during the work of the Joint Higher Committee between Egypt and Jordan.

World Bank report published recently revealed that the total losses of the Syrian economy is estimated at $ 226 billion, the report said residential areas were destroyed or partially damaged by the war by about 27%.

While, the cost of the reconstruction of areas affected by the war in Iraq, about $ 100 billion international institutions estimated. It began many countries and companies are considering the huge stage of reconstruction projects that will take place in Syria and Iraq, despite the continuation of the war.

spanki: https://iraqcurrencywatch.files.wordpress.com/2017/07/cc-with-nash-and-shelly.mp3

Doug_W: is that yet another CC Spank or the some one as before?
spanki: same
Doug_W: ok TY
spanki: lotta info

Spectra: hows about some new BS FROM IRAQ?? SOUNDS LIKE A PLAN!

Spectra: Congress threatens to cut payments to Iraqi Kurds if they break with Baghdad Read more: http://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/originals/2017/06/congress-threat-payments-krg-kurdistan-referendum-iraq.html#ixzz4o9SOe4ZF

Spectra: The House Armed Services Committee released a draft annual defense bill this week that makes continued funding for the KRG “contingent” upon Erbil’s “participation in the government of a unified Iraq.” This summary language is not legally binding but signals congressional intent to the Donald Trump administration.

Read more: http://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/originals/2017/06/congress-threat-payments-krg-kurdistan-referendum-iraq.html#ixzz4o9SUDJeg

Spectra: “The committee notes that funding provided to the [KRG] is to enhance Government of Iraq-KRG cooperation and support a unified effort to counter the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (ISIL),” the draft National Defense Authorization Act reads.

 “Such funding should be contingent upon KRG participation in the government of a unified Iraq and on their continued good faith cooperation in the anti-ISIL campaign.”

At risk are hundreds of millions of dollars in annual US support for the peshmerga, who have gone without regular paychecks in the midst of the campaign against the Islamic State (IS) as Erbil struggled with a budget shortfall.

Congress responded last year by allocating $480 million “in stipends and sustainment” to the peshmerga for the current fiscal year, which ends Sept. 30.

The new congressional language comes as Erbil is gearing up for a long-awaited independence referendum in September.

Read more: http://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/originals/2017/06/congress-threat-payments-krg-kurdistan-referendum-iraq.html#ixzz4o9SZ9j4X

Spectra: Zimbabwe: Gold Reserves to Back Currency 28 JULY 2017 Government is building diamond and gold reserves to back the local currency upon its re-introduction in future, Vice-President Emmerson Mnangagwa has said.

VP Mnangagwa refused to disclose when the local currency would be re-introduced, but said it would only come back when mineral reserves reached desired levels.

spectra: we may want to buy some of the NEW ZIMS! :) :yes:
Cree: @Doug_W yep.....
Doug_W: no more currency speculations 4 me
Spectra: LOL 
​Cree: @Spectra For me, I have enough currency. I am not interested in running after the Zim any longer.... But for those who are interested....

Spectra: We are building reserves of gold and diamonds which if they reach a certain level I will not tell you here, it will then allow us to introduce our own currency that will be backed by those minerals. I am not at liberty to disclose to you the level that we want those minerals to reach before they can back our own currency," said VP Mnangagwa.

He narrated the history of cash shortages in Zimbabwe saying problems started after the country embarked on the land reform programme.

He said Government introduced bond notes to plug the smuggling of the US dollar outside the country. "We only get foreign currency when we export something or through NGOs that come into our country.

Forex also comes from bilateral and multilateral financial support or through Foreign Direct Investment and if we do not get this there will be no forex because the US dollar that we are using is a reserve currency," he said.

VP Mnangagwa also said Government was concerned that bond notes were now being found in some neighbouring countries, saying investigations of how they ended up there were ongoing. He revealed that the Chiredzi leg of his ministry's visit was the first in a series of nationwide new Constitution advocacy meetings at district level.

​ http://allafrica.com/stories/2.....8.html

Spectra: @Cree RIGHT I JUST THOUGHT IT WAS INTERESTING

Cree: @Spectra We still have Dinarland friends buying the DEAD Zims and praying for it to be worth something. Too many desperate people. I feel for them but feel they are throwing away their money......

Spectra: @Cree Well they shouldn't be doing it!

MNT GOAT UPDATE, 28 JULY

Hi Everyone,

I bring you much news today. 


I don’t know about you but I am seeing some trends for disseminating information about Iraq. See if you realize it too.


First for years the news was all about the battle to liberate Mosul. Then for a couple weeks, after this victory was declared, the CBI stood up and took it’s turn explaining what it has done to save the country financially and what they can do for Iraq in the future. Remember Iraq got hit with a double whammy with the drop in oil prices and additional cost to fight ISIS.


This week we heard about the last strong hold for ISIS in the town of Tal Afar, Nineveh, Iraq. The prime minister Abadi said “a special plan” had been laid down for the liberation of the town, a major ISIS stronghold west of Mosul that has been isolated encircled by security forces and allied paramilitary troops. So folks the fun with ISIS is not over. What next? We wait for the “complete liberation from ISIS” not just Mosul.


Now, next comes the banking sector. This week is all about the BANKING SECTOR. Can you see it too? How will Iraq raise this enormous amount of money needed for reconstruction phase?


Many are presenting these post RV checklists to you. By doing this they are alluding to some fact that the RV may happen tomorrow and you should be ready. You should be ready and start thinking about a plan, especially if you are looking at significant exchange proceeds. But I do not see the signs needed to tell me this RV is imminent right now. Iraq has much work to do in the reconstruction phase. There is also still much work to do with the banks so they don’t fail. What do I mean by this statement?


Currently the banks survive in Iraq thru the currency auctions. They make billions of dinars off the legally allowed spread in the dinar exchange rate to US dollars for the auctions. The sanctions force the merchants to continue with the process of exchanging dinars for US Dollars. They have a captivated audience. But they are now telling us in today’s newsletter, they expect to end the auctions and the need to move/convert the banker’s profits from these auctions to the private sector. Remember also the CBI is slowly rolling out the electronic banking and electronically depositing salaries, pensions, etc directly to the bank now. This too raises capital for the banks for lending. But even this will not raise this massive money they need for reconstruction. 


More News….


The Council of Ministers decided in a meeting on Tuesday to authorize the Chairman of the National Authority for Investment the authority to negotiate and sign the draft agreement on the promotion and protection of investmentbetween the Government of the Republic of Iraq and the Government of the United States of America. (I hate to say it – but I told you so! The US is not going to let Iraq down since under the Trump administration they plan to heavily invest in Iraq. They will need to protect their investments. The USA is in Iraq to stay, but in a very good way)


More News….


Again I have to clarify some silly stuff floating around. When will this stuff ever end. Do these people spreading these rumors actually believe anyone will listen to them? So let’s cover some of them that had concerns. Thank you George for passing these on to me for clarification.


By now anyone who is reading my newsletters there are two topics that I have explained many times to you and what they are all about: The “New Republic” (or Nessara, Nesara, Nesera) stuff and this “GCR” stuff.


So let me give you a brief run down of the silliness. So it used to be that the restored republic was going back to common law and restoring the USA back to the original constitution. Really? As far as I know the USA is still following the “original” constitution. Since when has is changed? When has this changed in the past? What has changed is this group of charlatans don’t’ like the “original” constitution and want to replace it with their version. This is what they call “restoring the republic”. Then suddenly (like overnight) these same charlatans decided that restoring the republic now includes the entire world. Yes – they are going to save the world. From who? If there is any saving to be done it is from these charlatans. Next, I noticed that the restored republic is now to be done by the GCR. Really?


So let me get this notion correct. Do you mean to tell me the GCR is now going to restore the new republic? How can this be? If the GCR was true (which it is not) then how can this help restore the USA government back to functioning like in colonial days? I don’t get it. Someone please help me!


Why would the USA want to go back to functioning like the in colonial days 1776? Times are changing and so the governments must also change with them. Unfortunately, there are some shady politicians who think like these same charlatans and abuse the USA constitution, step on the flag and keep passing laws (as they create the fear) to work around the constitution. If anything these same people are to watch for and keep away from that give you all this nonsense. 


Another rumor is that American Healthcare bill of the Trump administration has buried in it the new US currency (USN) and the returning to the gold standard. Really? So I will tell everyone just one more time – There is no new republic currency (USN) about to be issued, nor is the USA going back to the gold standard. Yes – there are new security features on newer notes that will be rolled out. This is nothing new. Yes- part of the new asset list for developed countries includes more GOLD thus the percentage of gold backed currency has increased to meet new IMF monetary requirements. This a simple tool to lower risk. I would not take this as “going back to the gold standard”. Why would anyone think this? They say this to fit these situations into their nonsense. That is all. Get it?


Next, I do not know who “Grandmother/Quan Yin” is nor do I care. Get it? China or any other wealthy dynasty from China has absolutely no power over the Iraqi currency nor any other currency rates. Monetary policy is managed by the IMF in conjunction with the country of origin. China does not nor will they ever have some magical power over the world’s financial system. 


So let me address another bizarre one about Trump’s upcoming public resignation, administration termination and removal. Really? Folks this one tops them all. I could write a book on this nonsense. President Trump is not leaving office until his term of office is completed. Get it? He is most likely to get re-elected and is truly the only president I have seen in many decades who really, really cares about America and making it better. He is knowledgeable and knows the real issues. You may not like my opinion but let’s all just wait and see what happens. Remember we were first told by these “New Republic” charlatans he would be replaced in May. This then turned out to be early July when it did not happen in May. Now that early July has passed and it has not happened, it is moved to early September.


Do you see the cycle of lies that continue from these people. Nothing ever happens on their accord only lies that go on and on. My advice is to stay away from them. Focus on the IQD and what the GOI, CBI and KRG tells us. It is that simple. There is no “New Restored Republic” and certainly there is no special group of people secretly working behind the scenes on behalf of you to put down the cabal. Sorry to bust you bubble if you are one of their followers.


More news….


So now let me present my post-RV checklist to you. Remember this is only my opinion and I am not a legal adviser, attorney or financial adviser.


Tips for planning: (tasks you can do rite NOW)


1. Inventory your assets – all assets including you bank accounts, cars, homes, fine furniture, paintings, gold, etc;


2. How much currency will you be exchanging? Be realistic in your approach to estate planning. Project your proceeds based on common sense, realistic possible proceeds from the exchange. Someone with a 50,000 dinar note vs someone with 100 million dinars to exchange are in totally different situations;


3. Do you even have enough assets and dinar proceeds that warrant you to spend thousands to set up trusts or other tools to protect it? Will it matter in the long run? In other words will you even need to spend the effort to set up all this protection? It is necessary? Will the money all be spent shortly thereafter anyhow? ;


4. Research all the different types of asset protection tools, such as Trusts, Foundations, Charities, etc…Its all on the internet. What applies to you and your needs? Anyone who presents packages of asset protection tools for you and yet then they can’t answer your questions on how to legally use them, STAY AWAY FROM THEM. Seek out someone more knowledgeable;


5. Do not just go along with everyone else’s ideas and what they are using or what you are hearing on these conference calls. Stay calm do not get fearful of the process. It is not hard, just all new to you;


6. Tailor your asset protection tools to what is appropriate for you;


7. Set up your professional team. You want only the best and you want experts in their field with lots of experience. Find a good, honest Estate Planner, Trust Attorney and CPA who also deals with asset protection advice. Do an initial interview with them. Get recommendations from others who use them. What are their fees?


(Post RV, the banks may also offer you these professionals but you still should check them out and make sure you can work with them and they will still require a fee);


8. You DON”T need to setup any Trusts, Foundations or anything else pre-RV. This can all wait until you actually you exchange the currency in to significant money to protect. Get it? There is no hurry, no fear! ;

9. Consider these two (2) major issues you will be facing with a very large estate: 
Legal Tax Exemptions & Asset Protection- If you devise a sound plan and execute it to include and focus on these two issues you can hold on to your money for generations long after you are dead. You really can’t go wrong. There are other issues too but these are at the main core of concern. Even if you do nothing else, consider these two issues and manage them then I feel you will okay in this regard.

Executing the plan post RV:


1. Set aside money for taxes (I would use 50% of the proceeds as a gauge to set aside for Federal, State and any Local taxes). Seek an experienced tax advisor such as a CPA or someone who will provide legal backup, should they make a mistake. Pay your taxes. 


2. Pay off all short/long term debt with high interest rates (such as credit cards, mortgages, auto loans, etc.. Try to get debt free. Do not take on any more debt)


3. Protect your assets: (I am NOT talking about getting more insurance)

- Protect your home. Segregate the home from other assets;
- Protect your vehicles. Segregate your auto, recreational vehicles. campers from other assets;
- Protect your bank accounts, petty cash, gold etc from other assets;
- The key is to have the ability to legally manage everything but not to legally own anything;

4. Seek out safe investments. Take the principle amount (left over from the exchange and paying your taxes) invest it wisely. Try not to ever spend this money. My opinion is to combine 80% no risk, long term, medium returns but guaranteed monthly income, 20% medium to high risk high return. Personally I like long term, lump sum annuities and money market accounts. Make sure you also protect these investments too (such as put them in a trust). Can they be easily liquidated? You want them protected irrevocable. The answer should be NO! You should easily be able to make around 4-5% gain on investments with very little to NO risks. With high risks 10-25%, but you can lose it all too.


5. Find tools that provide legal tax exceptions on the revenue generated from your investments. How can you legally use this 1099 revenue without paying taxes or lowering the taxes?


As always my comments are in 
italic RED.

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Barzani meets with US ambassador to Iraq

July 27, 2017

Roudao - Erbil

The President of the Kurdistan Region, Massoud Barzani, received Thursday evening, US Ambassador to Iraq Douglas Silliman and his accompanying delegation, and discussed the political situation in Iraq and the Kurdistan Region.


"The political situation in Iraq and the Kurdistan region, in addition to the military situation and the war on terrorism, was discussed, and the continuation of coordination and cooperation to eliminate the terrorists," said a statement issued by the Kurdistan Regional Presidency. 


The two sides agreed, according to the statement, that the defeat of elements advocated in the city of Mosul, does not mean the end of terrorism, but that this war needs coordination and cooperation between all parties. 
(So there is still lots of work to be done. Just as I have been saying all along! More evidence I am right. Could be one reason why we still wait?)

Opportunities are coming

July 24,20017


Economists and businessmen consider that the next phase of the richest investment opportunities that the international companies are looking for in relation to the construction and reconstruction of Iraq is the same, but it is natural that the requirements of achieving this goal require considerable funds to absorb its implementation. Because it has huge money, modern technology and the required benefit, but there are challenges and outstanding effects that hinder the entry of these companies with large sums of money. (So they are telling us to move to this next phase of massive economic growth they will need massive funds to rebuild and construct to provide for these international companies to come into Iraq)


What is required for this challenge?


That Iraq’s need for funds is greater than we imagine to cover the reconstruction and reconstruction due to the infrastructure suffered from the total destruction and strategic projects of disruption and decline.


Therefore, the Iraqi banking sector in general has rich opportunities to contribute to the implementation of these projects in various ways through funding, partnership or direct implementation .


But since the capital of private banks is weak compared to the requirements of financing construction and reconstruction.


What is the solution to this challenge?

In a press interview with the banking expert Faisal Al-Hims, I asked him about his evaluation of banking performance. He said: “Let’s evaluate now. Let the question be what is required of the banking sector in the next stage.”

(This next paragraph is the meat and potatoes of this article)

Said: The right way for banks to provide the requirements of the next phase is the integration of banking to raise the amount of funds capable of meeting the requirements of the executing companies.

And we should be aware of the banks to the seriousness of dependence on the only product is the currency window, which may end its mission in the next stage. 
(So what they are saying in this sentence is in the past banks are making their money on the spread in the dinar when they sell the US dollar thru the currency windows (currency auctions). This is a WOW statement! Why?

Did you read this sentence? It says the currency windows will end in this next stage. This is exactly what we want to hear. Get it? This stage of massive growth will lead to the dinar going international. This is the only way they can stop of limit these currency auctions, thus the huge bank profits from them. So we know when they no longer need to buy US dollars using Dinar at the currency window, they will have an international currency by then and will use dinar directly to buy and sell goods and services to foreign countries. Folks did you realize how powerful this statement is?

So they when the auctions end, how will the banks then provide the capital for investments and loans? Read on and you will learn about their plan.)


What will private banks do then?


Then it is now necessary to think about looking for a profitable and successful investment that can not be achieved without banking integration.

(Folks they are telling us the answer is going to the private sector for funding. Certainly these small grants we are seeing from China, Japan, Canada, etc are not sufficient to raise the capital needed for all the reconstruction needed and to prepare the infrastructure to these massive companies to come into Iraq. How much do you think it will take to build these 10 industrial zones alone they referred to last week? I also want to say that the plan for the govt is to get off these social handouts and all these govt run jobs. They want the private sector to provide the jobs thus the people’s money in the bank for long term home and auto loans and investment money.)

Iraqi private banks association: We seek to open up prospects for cooperation with foreign and US banks are particularly


The Minister of Economic Affairs at the US Embassy Larry Mimut on Wednesday, the banking sector , the most important one of the main reasons for the development of the Iraqi economy, and we will work with those who support it to develop.


As Iraqi banks are encouraged to:


1. open relations with the US private banks association, and

2. at the time indicates the International Development Bank,
3. that many of the Iraqi private banks in compliance with international standards, and
4. is ready to open accounts with banks in foreign correspondence because of its unique cadre of integrated services, has accused the Bank of Baghdad administration, government banks acquired the banking business in Iraq because of policies the government supported the banking sector account.

This was during a panel discussion held by the Iraqi Association of private banks at its headquarters.


Included both the representative of the Central Bank of Mazen morning and the representative of the Union of Arab Banks Khawla al – Asadi and a member of the Committee on Economy Parliamentary Mahdi Al – Hafiz and managers of private and government banks and heads of branches of Arab and foreign banks operating in Iraq with the Minister Plenipotentiary for Economic Affairs Embassy American Larry Mimut, in addition to the representative of the US Treasury in Iraq, with the aim of opening a new page of relations with foreign banks, particularly US banks.


The Iraqi Association of private banks in a statement after the meeting got (range) , a copy of ‘The aim of this dialogue session is to open a new page of relations with foreign and specifically with US banks banks’, where he formed a committee chaired by the representative of the Central Bank, as agreed the formation of a delegation comprising government and private banks to visit the United States and establish strong relationships with correspondent banks and the US specifically. ‘ (Again more WOW news. These US banks can supply the capital for growth for Iraq, but there is a price to pay too. This is more of what we need to see. When the BIG bankers get involved the money flows…..)


Finance confirms inclusion of all ministries and government advances

BAGHDAD / … denied the Ministry of Finance, on Tuesday, the exception of some ministries of advances launched by government banks, while confirming that the advances launched by banks to be inclusive of all ministries, without exception.


The director of the angel department and the public sector in the budget department in the ministry Kawthar Abdul Ilah’s “Eye of Iraq News”, that “there is no exception to some of the ministries of advances launched by government banks,” noting that “all the news that talked about the presence of Estinaat is news completely untrue. ”

(the rest of the article just repeats itself)

Abadi calls attention to the "rumors" and confirms the move to transfer powers to the provinces

Baghdad News Agency

26 Jul. 2017

Prime Minister Haider al-Abadi on Wednesday called attention to "rumors and suspicious campaigns" aimed at destabilizing the security of society, while stressing the government's move to transfer powers to the provinces.


"The fighters who started from the provinces to liberate Anbar, Salah al-Din and Mosul have exceeded sectarianism and achieved national unity and victory in their finest sense," Prime Minister Haider al-Abadi said during a meeting of the Higher Inter-Provincial Coordination Committee. "We have the honor as Iraqis to eliminate the oppressor. The rest of the land in Tal Afar, Hawija and West Anbar with the same strength and determination"

(telling us these areas are still controlled by ISIS and they still have to liberate them)

Abadi called for "investing in national unity and working with devotion and sacrifice like the fighters who carried their lives on their shoulders." He stressed the importance of "cooperation and coordination between the provinces and stability and attention to rumors and suspicious campaigns aimed at destabilizing the security and terrorism of society.


"Protecting citizens from the responsibility and duty of the government, especially doctors," he said, "is important to clarify the circumstances of these crimes that occur as a result of individual actions and family disputes and not organized crimes as rumored."


On the transfer of powers to the provinces, the Prime Minister, "continue to insist on the transfer of powers properly and according to clear instructions and non-interference of politicians in executive matters." (Remember the transfer of power from the central GOI to the provinces? –they called it back then the “decentralization” effort. Sounds to me they still have issues implementing it and its not yet done. This would take the burden off the GOI in many ways. They must move from a Saddam Hussein central govt to self governing district governments lead by the GOI that runs the country as a whole. )


Iraqi government says it cannot implement Article 140 of Constitution

(You know I get so tired of all the “BS” about HCL and Article 140 implementation. So what is the real status on these? This article is proof once again that what Mnt Goat says is FACTUAL and so all you so-called intel “gurus” who say that Article 140 has been all done for quite some time can go jump in a lake. You are wrong again as you really don’t listen to the news or care about bringing the truth. So here it is in black and white for you today. As I showed you in past articles HCL was passed thru the cabinet but not parliament. Parliament kicked it back to the cabinet for changes, it then when back to the house after the changes and there is sits for a final vote. They keep telling us about the urgency and even have given past target dates for the vote, but it never goes anywhere. Their words not mine!

No Rumor, No Hype…..Just the FACTS)


ERBIL, Kurdistan Region (Kurdistan 24) – The Iraqi government, in a letter to the Kirkuk Provincial Council, claimed the government "cannot implement" Article 140 of the Iraqi Constitution in Kirkuk.


Recently, the Kirkuk Provincial Council asked the Iraqi government to trigger article 140 of the Constitution in Kirkuk to help "determine the future of the disputed territory between the Kurdistan Region and Iraq."


Article 140 states it is the responsibility of the Iraqi government to "perform a census and conclude through referenda in Kirkuk and other disputed territories the will of their citizens, by a date not to exceed the 31st of December 2007.” 
(So the required census needed to implement Article 140 is late. It was supposed to be done already in 2007)

In an official letter, the Iraqi General Secretariat at the Council of Ministers stressed its refusal to hold a referendum in Kirkuk due to "the non-fulfillment of its conditions," referring to the parameters defined in Article 140 and Article 120 regarding the need to complete a census in the county.


Rebwar Talabani, Head of the Kirkuk Provincial Council, told Kurdistan 24 the Iraqi government has "no intention" of implementing the Constitution, saying there is "no option left for [Kurds] but to use other means outside of the constitutional framework" to determine Kirkuk's future.


We will present our recommendation to the Kurdistan Region's leadership to finally decide on the future of Kirkuk, either by participating in the referendum for independence on September 25 or through a separate referendum,”Talabani said.

(Lots of talk always about the constitution and mostly about this Article 140. So what exactly is Article 140? Can we read it directly? Of course you can. Here is the link to the entire Iraqi constitution. So no more “BS” from all these so called “gurus’ on its content. You can now read it for yourselves.

Link below :
http://iraqinationality.gov.iq/attach/iraqi_constitution.pdf

Article 120: Each region shall adopt a constitution of its own that defines the structure of powers of the region, its authorities, and the mechanisms for exercising such authorities, provided that it does not contradict this Constitution. (This is the basis for the decentralization that Abadi talks about in today’s news article. This gives him the authority to keep moving in this direction. This is like giving the provinces “statehood” if you want to compare it to the USA. This is absolutely needed since the GOI can not keep tabs and administer the entire country alone.)


Article 140: First: The executive authority shall undertake the necessary steps to complete the implementation of the requirements of all subparagraphs of Article 58 of the Transitional Administrative Law. ​


Second: The responsibility placed upon the executive branch of the Iraqi Transitional Government stipulated in Article 58 of the Transitional Administrative Law shall extend and continue to the executive authority elected in accordance with this Constitution, provided that it accomplishes completely (normalization and census and concludes with a referendum in Kirkuk and other disputed territories to determine the will of their citizens), by a date not to exceed the 31st of December 2007. 
(In other words this is saying special sessions may be conducted to get this done. Sessions allowed under and in accordance with Article 58)

Article 58: First: The President of the Republic, the Prime Minister, the Speaker of the Council of Representatives, or fifty members of the Council of Representatives may call the Council to an extraordinary session. The session shall be restricted to the topics that necessitated the call for the session.


Second: The legislative session of the Council of Representatives may be extended for no more than 30 days to complete the tasks that require the extension, based on a request from the President of the Republic, the Prime Minister, the Speaker of the Council, or fifty members of the Council of Representatives.


(Now you know exactly what the articles say in the constitution. No more guessing. So what’s the big deal about Article 140 and Article 120 anyhow? Why is it so important for the KRG to implement it?


Before I answer this question, I have to tell you that you should already know the answer and do not need me to tell you. I have covered this stuff so many times already. But now we hear it once again from Iraqi news media. Everytime I bring out this news I get a follow up bashing that I am wrong. Really? They say this is not needed for an RV. Really? Go back and read the news from the USA and IMF going way back to 2010 timeframe. The constitution must be “fully” implemented to get out of sanctions. So is it fully implemented now? You tell me.


The answer to the problems lie in all the oil revenue generated from Kurkuk. There is plenty of nice rich oil in the region. The KRG wants it included under the KRG region. Then they want a percentage of the revenue generated from this oil to care for the people in it. Who is going to take care of these people? So far, do to lack of a census, the GOI can not determine how much $$$ to include in the payout. This delay is due to the refugees pouring into this region. So the KRG sells this oil outside of the GOI. They don’t like this since all oil revenue must go through the DFI fund (in the past) and now go directly through the CBI). They are bypassing this process since the DFI ended in 2013. Who is really living in Kurkuk as a full time residence? It is always in fluctuation. So at least this is their excuse. So the KRG is now saying they will come up with some kind of formula, but the constitution Article 140 and 120 will be implemented one way or the another.)


Expert: Iraq's potential makes it a kiss for global companies

27/7/2017 12:00 am 


Emphasize the ability to achieve integrated development

Baghdad / Hussein Thugb 

Continuing diagnosis of the challenges facing the economic development that a rich country should have, such as Iraq, which has human resources and natural resources, can make it a new economic tiger at the level of the world. 

Economic and financial expert Mohammed Ali Jaber pointed out that the economic development that Iraq is not impossible, pointing out that the possibilities that are available in Iraq make it an economic kiss for the best global economies, and here we can say: Development is not limited to a specific type of sector, Stressing the possibility of achieving integrated development in Iraq, when combined Efforts. 


Quick success 

He said in an interview for "morning": The opportunities are available for economic renaissance and we have to start in the actual aspects that we believe we have the elements of achieving rapid success that can be activated without the need for long periods of time such as the agricultural sector and small and medium industrial enterprises and the tourism sector, developed to provide advanced services to these sectors, which must be linked to strategic plans for the development of all stages to the establishment of major projects in the coming periods and be small and medium enterprises complementary projects 


Strategy


In Iraq there are jobs in all sectors that can absorb the local and international effort and create an effective economy in the world according to experts and those interested in economic affairs. 
Effective economy 

He said: This method was adopted in most of the major economic blocs that have been able to create an effective economy and influential in the world, although it does not have the same assets that Iraq has, which requires us to meet again and agree to work nationally to revive all economic joints and draw up actual plans Coupled with an active working environment that moves the national economy to a better state on him. 


Strategy drawing 

Jaber had said in an interview earlier "morning" that the reality of the Iraqi economy requires a plan of economic action court drawn through a national rescue conference includes the parties concerned and represented by the government and the parliament and the private sector and the public in all formations with the support of the banking sector government and Alahli for this effort where the channel that passes including money to development projects and a concrete action strategy that begins with a phased advancement in all sectors. 


Recruiting resources 

He pointed out that the conference, which organizes this goal, seeks to establish an existing system capable of mobilizing domestic and international financial resources and reallocating them to serve the economic activity in order to achieve high rates and continue economic growth through modernization, achievement and cash of all financial sector units, Based on practical foundations for the promotion of various economic sectors.


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Their words not mine…..No Rumors, No Hype, Just the FACTS!

Auf Wiedersehen

Much love to ya all,
Mnt Goat

WSOMN CHAT, 28 JULY

TED1016: 
Wow what luck it is the old seven combo again We have one 7 in the first two digits, another 7 + a 2 in the second set of numbers then in the last four numbers we have a 2 and a 10 so we end up with 4 sevens. Do you see it you see the first two sevens right? Then 2+ another 2 plus a 10 ad 2+2+10 equals 14 divide that and you get a pair of 7777. Got to happen now…..:0)

Pardon my fun but I giggle at the numerology folks when the talk about the number 7 combinations so I just couldn’t help myself. On a serious issue I heard at least two Intel folks kind of lean toward this going on into August. Let’s all hope they are wrong but I know we have all seen this before. Always want to leave a door open. Ask Gerry M and Nancy. They shut the doors too early.

Most gracious and Heavenly Father, yes we are still here waiting for all the pieces of the puzzle to fall into place. Some say this and some say that and nobody has hit it right yet. Our faith still remains strong that this event will happen but the constant delay only allows doubt to creep into our minds. This gives anger a seed bed to sprout. We await but each day passes more of us loose part of our faith.

Dear Lord God Almighty, help us to see pass the ones who are dedicated to discouraging us from believing this event will ever happen in our lifetime. The road to this happening seems cluttered with confusion and distrust, please guide us to the path You have chosen for us to follow. Amen and Amen.

Rest easy this morning my friends it looks like we still have a few more days for this to happen. When it does be careful there are multitudes of people out there waiting to take the return on our investments away. Satin may be lurking right outside your door.



 

I have a good friend in so cal and his partner in the currency deal lives in Las Vegas . She is part of the orginal generals group and they are hearing , get ready to exchange and paymasters are ready!

 

He has called me twice this week saying the same , they are hearing it's going to happen soon! I usually don't get calls from him on Intel.

 

GOOD MORNING. REGARDING DREAMERS COMMENT. THE PAYMASTERS ARE READY. UNFORTUNATELY, THEY CANNOT ACT UNTIL THEY HAVE BEEN GIVEN ACCESS TO THE FUNDS THEY CONTROL. THAT HAS NOT BEEN DONE...YET.

 

PAYMASTERS HAVE BEEN READY FOR WEEKS IF NOT MONTHS. THE AUTHORITY FOR RELEASE HAS NOT BEEN GIVEN AND NO ONE KNOWS W HE EN THAT WILL BE. MY CRYSTAL BALL IS IN FOR REPAIR SO I CAN'T EVEN GUESS.


 

When I first got in this investment, I was told from a good source that when iraq revalues there currency that it will hydrated manny country's and pay off the federal reserve debt and then all others countrys will either raise the value or lower the value of there currency.
I still believe this



 

I dont know how to post a picture but the water in Flint, MI is literally brown coming out of fire hydrant today. Absolutely on the gotta get this fixed list post RV


 

RC; lots of good news coming out of Iraq in regards to 24 seven electricity, ATMs loaded with lower denominations and the list goes on. I think it's almost time to Rock and roll brother!


 

DRL- I AGREE THE NEWS IS AWESOME


 

curious......................all of a sudden the rupiah talk of redonm

Why not... Seems like normal intelligence is not working too well these days




 


im wondering who started the rupiah revalueing rumor way back when....and why.
probably tony



 

Maybe rupia sales were down.


 

anyone else with any indonesian insite?


 


the only real insite I have is....Indo girls are SMOKING hott


 

Curios how many rused out and bought rupia after the announcement.... Think about it.


 


i admit...i bought some with no research at all some years back. Never really though it again until recently

I still believe that when the RV goes it will be for all currencies...But what do I know?


 

They were saying it was not going to revalue- but leaning towards a lop - regardless what is circulating , I'm keeping mine


 


im keeping mine too.................... who knows. BUT, when you read about their economy, is there ANY logical reason they would explode the currency?


 

Rupiah - If the redenomination kicks off now, it can be fully implemented in 2024 or 2025, he added.


 

has viet been reducing note count? i dont think so




 


has indo been reducing note count ....i dont think so


 


zim reducing note count? yes............there are NO notes


 

Try EBay they gave a ton of Zim


 

I'm hearing 53 countries will revalue their currency


 

006 I heard the same. At least 53 are good-to-go. Big deal.


 

So it's not about iraq we need to stopped believing the so called know it all gurus


 


no offence but.......who is saying THAT?


 

Sorry can't tell that info. We can just say a birdie


 

102.5 hrs (EDT) to August. They better hurry.


 

what about the other 156 that were spoken of all along that hat to be ready also at sametime to be in synk??? 209 total?




 

006 wrote
10m ago
The real number is 53


 

that is in print along with the teritories involved that is why sovegern rate groups paid a tax...


 

oh yea the great jospat forgot to mention the txs on sovg. rates...


 

Did Frank weep last night? He looked ready to let go last Friday or Monday.


 

He is a showman nothing more imo


 

His casette tape recorder broke.... That made him cry.


 

What do any of us know we just wait and watch
Sometimes I like him and sometimes I don't. With his theatrics he manages to stretch 10 minutes of useful intel into a 2 hr call. He's one of a kind, that's for sure.


 

Thing that I wonder about is that he also sells currency. Isn't that what Tony got in trouble for?


 

Herb Yes. Of course, it helps that he uses his cc to make a living selling his currencies and other products. Guess you gotta do what you gotta do. Can't blame him for that. .


 

no Ted Tony and his buddies screwed many over in Kansas with his investnmenst years ago.....


 

To the tune of $1.6 mil. Ouch!


 

OK that was before my time I guess. I never listened to Tony.


 

KLS - remember all the indignation from TNT that the Washington Elites were exchanging?

That's when their were 250k people with dinar. And they didn't know how to handle us then?

Thus the encouragement for us all to tweet our congressmen, LOL

Osmo6: Oh, yea....We were going to crash the banks


 

what a joke all that was

Osmosis: Did that Too! Sent Tweets! Winston, came on to rescue us from ourselves.


 

DC pretending to be in Washington. then we found out he was in Austin operating an airplane hanger, LOL
that guy was a piece of work



 

Wonder how much tony was paying him

enough to make it worth his time

and Ray, Pam ,

Osmosis: Don't give that guy credit, for posting all that garbage...the one that is vulgar and owns websites, does youtube...destroying ppl.


 


Sure is a lot of negativity in here today.


 

creampuff - just reliving what happened years ago

This is healthy. Good therapy to talk it out. lol

Cream: Not negative, just reminiscing!

What the good Old days were like.

nothing beats a failure but a try


 

Yes and my ancestors were slave owners, but would it be proper to reminiscing about that?

who does that make sense to

you know more than you think you know

When this thing happens, I would be glad to shake ALL gurus hands...they kept the dream alive. They never hurt me.

oh well, all that just makes our Admin look more like the ethical gentleman he is


 

Look how close it has brought this family together. ❤️❤️❤️


 

Who downloaded the TNT logos?

All that wait time, I bought more currency. At first I used the excuse to buy more, was to pay the 6t% cap gains tax...

I have the song as my ringtone lol

hahahaha I will Pay it Forward.


 

Sorry I read Dr Clark- lol

What is 60 more days lo


 

Can you believe it and this Debbie Wasserman Shultz business - I know her - She is a monster, And I'm being nice


 

SAND, IM A LITTLE THINKING........MAYBE , JUST MAYBE, ITS A SHAM, JUST TO GET OUT OF THE RUSSIAN STUFF GOING ON...

KINDA PUTTING IT IN THE BACKGROUND. I HAVE A HARD TIME BELEIVING ITS FOR REAL..

But what a global embarrassment


 

Will someone PLEASE give me a pm or tell me where to go to see this


 

D4 TURN ON THE TV...

Anyone know what the "password protected" documents section is that admin posted 3 days ago?


 

VASO, WE ARENT TALKING ABOUT IT..


 

Voslos: About the birth certificate issue


 

I asked for the code got no answer !


 

Is it only for certain eyes?


 

Is it only for certain eyes?


 

I BELEIVE SO VOSLOS... ONLY ADMIN HAD PASSWORD I THINK


 

ADMIN DOES NOT WANT IT TALKED ABOUT HERE...


 

Halo I will PM it to you. It is from 3 days ago. I don't know if it changed or not


 

NO ONE KNOWS HOW IT WOULD WORK OUT. COULD BE BAD WITH YOU NOT EXCHANGING ANYTHING. SO, NOW, THE MATTER IS DROPPED.


 

You know every time we get to the end of the month there is always someone ready to say it will be coming the month after the one coming up. Predictions like that make me sick and mad as Heck.

Dedar wrote
I just don't like the dates Dr Clark put forward. Especially September.


 

Dedar don't get caught up in the fear they want u to have ...

I'm not fearful. I just want this all to be over with.


 

So Bruce say by the end of the week huh


 

trel and then we have Dr Clark saying August into September.


 

all i can say about dr, clarke he is calling every month now since february with no concrete reason so i am overr his analogy


 

WE KNOW ITS HARD TO KEEP WAITING DAY AFTER DAY , READING AND LISTENING TO EVERYONE AND EVERYTHING

WE NEED TO SIT BACK AND LET IT COME TO YOU. IN ITS OWN TIMELINE.

ABSOLUTELY NO ONE KNOWS THE DAY OR THE ANOUNT.

PLEASE. TRY TO REMEMBER THIS. YOU ALL KNOW WE ARE HERE AND IN A SUPER GREAT PLACE

DO YOURSELF A HUGE FAVOR. TRY TO RELAX AND LET IT COME TO YOU. WE ARE ALL HERE TOGETHER.

WE ARE A GREAT GROUP. VERY CARING FOR EACH OTHER. AND KNOW OUR LEADER IS THERE FIR US.

SORRY GUYS. I FEEL YOUR PAIN. YOU ARE NOT ALONE. ❤️? AND. WE DO HAVE OUR TED TO ALSO HELP US YHRU THIS. SLEEP TONIGHT WITH PEACE, KNOWING WE ARE NEAR.



 

This is getting so close to our blessings :   it's coming!!   excited    I am pumped   

this should happen this week!! 


 

ROH just that we have to wait...everything is done.... they are just waiting for their money too


 

Lets not pump the roo up cus then they get to come down lets just be even. Keel for once